Christopher Columbus

Christopher Columbus - Politics, Business, Civil, History - Posted: 10th Dec, 2004 - 4:45am

Register Login Text RPG Play Text RPG ?

Posts: 4 - Views: 1175 Rating: 1/10 out of 1 Votes
Add Reply Q
Post Date: 17th Oct, 2004 - 1:09pm / Post ID: #

Christopher Columbus

Did anyone really 'discover' what is known today as the 'Americas'? Many point towards Christopher Columbus, who despite all odds, led three ships across the mighty oceans. However when Christopher landed at Cuba he found inhabitants, so it was more of a finding rather than a new discovery.

1451 Born in Genoa, the son of a wool merchant and weaver.
1476 Swims ashore when his ship is sunk in a battle off Portugal.
1476 Joins his brother Bartholomew, a cartographer, in Lisbon.
1477-1482 Makes merchant voyages as far as Iceland and Guinea.
1484 Conceives of "The Enterprise of the Indies." Fails to convince King John of Portugal to back the plan.
1485 Moves to Spain.
1492/1/2 Ferdinand & Isabela capture Granada, the last Moorish city in Spain.
1492/8/3 Departs from Palos, Spain (near Huelva)
1492/9/6 Departs Gomera (Canary Islands) after repair and refit.
1492/10/12 New world sighted at 2:00 a.m. by Rodrigo de Triana, somewhere in the Bahamas.
1492/10/29 Arrives at Cuba.
1492/11/22 Martín Alonso Pinzón, captain of the Pinta, deserts the expedition off Cuba.
1492/12/5 Columbus arrives at Hispaniola.

Ref. https://www1.minn.net/~keithp/

Sponsored Links:
Post Date: 17th Oct, 2004 - 2:21pm / Post ID: #


Diamond + Author
Lifestyle
[?] CPosts: 3,526
Posts: 4,033
Avg: 0.7 Post(s) / Day
Activity: 18.6%
[+] Gain: 200.00 FP
Charm: 225

Columbus Christopher

This is a particularly interesting topic, since so many people object to the word, "discover" when applied to Columbus.

Yes, it is obvious that some Norse ships visited the New World, and probably even took word of it back to their country.

There is evidence to suggest that the Templars may have known of the New World, and may even have established a small base here.

Of course, there were already people here of various types, with some obviously having mixed far northeaster asian ties.

However, Columbus' journeys undeniably "discovered" the New World as far as the Old World was concerned. Only Columbus' voyage, along with the reports back to Europe, changed the whole flow of world history. If the Norsemen knew about the Americas, it apparently didn't have any real effect on their society, nor did they spread knowledge about it to other nations. But the whole social, economic, and religious structure of Europe was changed by Columbus' work, and eventually the whole world was changed as well.

QUOTE
so it was more of a finding rather than a new discovery.

By the same logic, nobody "discovered" Australia, Hawaii, or New Zealand. Nobody "discovered" Easter Island. After all, there is undeniable evidence that all had inhabitants at various times. However, they were "covered" by the ignorance of the whole world. Nobody, except for the people actually living there, knew that they existed. There was no commerce or communication with the rest of the world. So, the explorers who found them really did "discover" them, as they pulled back the cover of ignorance, presenting their existence to the rest of the world.

Attached Image Edited: Nighthawk on 17th Oct, 2004 - 2:24pm


International Level: International Guru / Political Participation: 854 ActivistPoliticianInternational Guru 85.4%


Post Date: 17th Oct, 2004 - 2:51pm / Post ID: #


Member Seasoned
****
[?] CPosts: 315
Posts: 328
Avg: 0.1 Post(s) / Day
Activity: 1.6%
[+] Gain: 200.00 FP
Charm: 30

Christopher Columbus History & Civil Business Politics


Nighthawk, you forgot to mention the Phoenicians...

https://phoenicia.org/carthanewworld.html

;)


Dubhdara.


International Level: Junior Politician / Political Participation: 100 ActivistPoliticianJunior Politician 10%


Post Date: 10th Dec, 2004 - 4:45am / Post ID: #


Member Watchful Eye
*****
[?] CPosts: 719
Posts: 1,226
Avg: 0.2 Post(s) / Day
Activity: 6.1%
[+] Gain: 200.00 FP
Charm: 52

Columbus Christopher

I totally agree!

When I was little, I was told that Columbus discovered America, and I had such a hard time grasping that concept. When I heard America, I thought of the country, with New York and Washington, and towers and hot dogs. Now, how could a single man discover that?


International Level: Activist / Political Participation: 29 ActivistPoliticianActivist 2.9%


Guest please SHARE: "Christopher Columbus" on:

Sponsored Links:

Topics like "Christopher Columbus" may just be one of many, do use the Search to find more
Options Fast Reply Add Reply Add Poll


No Registration Required!

We welcome input from visitors:
Add Comment As A Guest
Guest, please be considerate by using the appropriate tags as well as checking your grammar before submitting or it will be deleted. See: Constructive Posting Policy.

Tip TIP: Press above button ONCE only. If you come back here via the [Back] button on your browser then you will need to click [More Options] button (below) first in order to re-enable your ability to Post.

> TOPIC: Christopher Columbus


Share:

Like:

Donate Compare Membership
International Discussions Coded by: BGID® ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Copyright © 1999-2019
Disclaimer Privacy Report Errors Credits
This site uses Cookies to dispense or record information with regards to your visit. By continuing to use this site you agree to the terms outlined in our Cookies used here: Privacy / Disclaimer,

shout Shoutbox!


20th Jan, 2019
3:02pm GMT
JB: See the plans we have for 2019 in our Newsletter: January 2019.

JB: A summary of what has been done is in our Newsletter: December 2018.

JB: Currently, working towards merging many Boards.

JB: You can now Search within a Thread via the Thread Options Menu button at the top right of any Thread.

JB: Added a new MENU button to the top right which keeps all the links neat and in one place. As time goes by this will populated with more information and options.

JB: We upgraded our code. We are using the latest version of PHP. Please let us know if you get any errors.

JB: Hello , you can see what is happening in the Community via our latest Newsletter: HERE!

Enter Your Shout:

Shout Back Now

World Issues

USA vs North Korea:
North Korea Nuclear Weapons
versus USA This country is no Iraq. What is the USA going to do? What will be the outcome? By News 20 Hours Ago
USA vs Syria:
versus U.S.A. Is Syria the next Iraq? By Reformist 3.9 Days Ago
North Korea vs South Korea:
versus North Korea Vs. South Korea By News 5th Jan, 2019 - 12:10pm
China vs USA:
USA versus China versus Chinese versus Americans The role of its Army, Politics, and Status in the World. By Skeptic 11th Dec, 2018 - 1:53pm
USA vs Germany:
Germany versus U.S.A. By News 11th Jul, 2018 - 8:00pm
China Navy:
Chinese Aircraft Carrier
China Navy Beware the new Naval power, they are planning to come on stream with big naval might to match their ground forces. Chinese Aircraft Carrier - Chinese Navy By News 27th Jun, 2018 - 11:14am
Russia vs. Syria:
Syria vs Russia By Opinion 17th Apr, 2018 - 9:54am
North Korea Military:
Discuss  North Korea Military This Thread is about the North Korean Military itself - the kind of army, navy, and air force they have. By Wizard 15th Jan, 2018 - 9:36am
Japan vs North Korea:
North Korea versus Japan versus War With Japan By Swell 17th Oct, 2017 - 4:17pm
China Military:
China Military Technology Preparing For China. China is growing their military. China Military Technology - can it keep up with the US? By Abnninja 5th Mar, 2017 - 5:25pm