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Are there actual rules of war that need to be followed or is war something that has no restrictions?
Post Date: 13th Jan, 2009 - 7:59pm / Post ID: #

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That says it all Dbackers. As a soldier who is playing by the rules you have to be prepared for those who are not. If they are using human shields and using protected buildings to do their dirty work from then you can bet those buildings will be targeted. I think this is a big reason why we are starting to win in Iraq. The locals are only going to put up with being used as shields for soo long.

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13th Jan, 2009 - 8:19pm / Post ID: #

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It is an issue and we used to call them Hijackers. The question is if you kill the civilians and the attackers does it send the message what you are doing is usless and if so do they stop?

If they do stop the end might justify the means. If they do not then all was wasted, this means are you as a leader wiling to try it?

If your enemy breaks the rule then all bets are off in my books and have at them. It is wrong but letting your people die with no way to stop it is just as bad. So you are choosing a path the does have an end thus limiting civilian casualties.


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Post Date: 13th Jan, 2009 - 10:21pm / Post ID: #

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"How many does it take to metamorphose wickedness into righteousness? One man must not kill. If he does, it is murder.... But a state or nation may kill as many as they please, and it is not murder. It is just, necessary, commendable, and right. Only get people enough to agree to it, and the butchery of myriads of human beings is perfectly innocent. But how many does it take?" -- Adin Ballou, The Non-Resistant, 5 February 1845

Post Date: 14th Jan, 2009 - 4:20pm / Post ID: #

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Even if the other side does not play by the rules you should not totally disregard the rules either. Find a way to make the rules work for your side so that you look like one to follow the rules. This will place alot of the innocent people in your favor. They are more likely to see you win and even show you where the enemy placed traps other things that will hurt you. You should never give up on the rules,.

Post Date: 6th Nov, 2009 - 3:25pm / Post ID: #

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It seems to me that the US is the only country today that is held to any standard in matters of rules of war...

To any of the Scandinavian countries who are all taking part in the Afghanistan "war", If one of their combatants spit in direction of a mosque, or they are saying one negative think about a Muslim they are court martial.

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29th Dec, 2009 - 6:10am / Post ID: #

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Even if the other side does not play by the rules you should not totally disregard the rules either. Find a way to make the rules work for your side so that you look like one to follow the rules. This will place alot of the innocent people in your favor. They are more likely to see you win and even show you where the enemy placed traps other things that will hurt you. You should never give up on the rules,.

I agree. The whole reason I think civilians were killed in massive amounts in WWII is because it was a war for world domination for Germany and Japan. It would have been hard enough for the Germans to play nice with the people they're fighting when they're fighting the entire world. They can't take the time to be nice (although in the future I guess it would've helped if they had been nicer- if your country is occupied and not one single thing changes, then there isn't much to be mad about. But that only goes for if the entire world gets occupied anyway).

These days, we have more specific goals in wars. Not the war on terrorism- that's pretty much like the war on drugs. It is the primary objective- continuous battling against it because it's almost always going to be a threat. But like the war on drugs there are certain objectives. In the war on drugs, it might be to curb the transportation of illegal substances into the country- that'll be one war. Another might be taking out the most dangerous/productive drug organization- that would be a separate war.

Continuing that line of thought, In the war on terrorism, our objectives could be to reduce the foundation for terrorism to exist. That could be seen by our attempts at occupying Iraq and Afghanistan, and trying to instill a sense of democracy in their governments so there will be a central order to things, and less corrupt individuals in charge. This would make it harder for terrorist organizations to live within a given country- if the government is actively opposing them- as opposed to supplying them or just greeting them with indifference to their actions. Another goal could be to overthrow the current most dangerous terrorist organizations, thus reducing terrorist attacks throughout the world.

Given these goals in current times- there has to be rules of war. There is no reason not to have them. Whereas WWII dictated the need to destroy civilian population to destabilize the enemy workforce and production capability, today is the same except without the threat of world occupation by the enemy (technically this threat is there- it's just not going to happen physically, aka- governments and territories being taken).

That being said all these reasons could be said to be false- that we're just in middle eastern countries for oil... Ect. And whatnot. It's whatever you think it is. But in the end- if there are no rules of war- we pretty much end up being terrorists- doing whatever it takes to achieve our goals. But then what about "the end justifies the means", well as far as I know, the terrorists have no reason to attack us- either they believe they're threatened which could allow the end to justify the means, or they just don't like everyone else- which is pretty messed up. Same thing goes for us- we're threatened by the terrorists- have lost many of our people to their attacks, however we aren't going all out, no rules slaughter. We're doing what we can in a civilized manner.


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29th Dec, 2009 - 12:37pm / Post ID: #

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In war you are allowing your very life to be at risk. Humans will do incredibly insane things when thier lives are at stake. It's hard to say to someone sorry you have to be at even more risk of death, because this rule says we can't do that, and expect them to comply.

Of course certain enemies will play the victim only to stab you in the back when you turn away. This should be assumed and precautions should be in place to prevent it.

If you have a gun pointed at the enemy and he has one pointed at you. You have to trust that the other guy with the gun is going to put his down when you do. The other has to trust you as well. Obviously there can be no such trust in this situation.

So you sit, guns pointed, eventually your going to shoot and roll the dice that the other will miss. All the while trying to convince the guy your not going to shoot as to put him off guard.

There is an old saying, I think it is chinese. The very first law of war is deception. How far do you take such deception. Once your down that road it's hard to tell.

Rather off topic, but...
Afghanistan also has a huge amount of poppy farms. This is an illegal drug that many natives believe will be taken away once occupied. How do you convince a nation of people to give up thier way of making a living. It is in thier best interests to not comply with America.


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29th Dec, 2009 - 8:50pm / Post ID: #

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I agree with what Oliron said and just wanted to add that most military technicians could learn lots from The Art of War from Sun Tzu.


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