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Actually, it is followup on a promiss that - Page 5 - Politics, Business, Civil, History - Posted: 13th Jun, 2008 - 12:26am

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29th May, 2008 - 1:55am / Post ID: #

China vs Taiwan - Page 5

Maybe that is why he is back in power? Probably voters did not appreciate reading newspapers with threats from China of invasion, war, etc. Maybe the Taiwanese would like to have total independence, but at the same time they are not ready for the revolution to bring it into being.


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29th May, 2008 - 2:50am / Post ID: #

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Basically, he is now in power for the same reason that most countries go to other parties...MONEY. The Taiwanese economy has slid a bit under the DPP and the people took notice and voted for "change". Sounds familiar doesnt it! They have seen Taiwan dollars funneled into China and they have seen Chinese dollars going elsewhere for investment, so the people here want to keep the expansion and investment in Taiwan going.

Now just because he is from the KMT (more friendly with China), he does not agree that Taiwan is a wholely owned Chinese State to which they have authority. I would say that he sees Taiwan as more like a nephew of China. They are family, but they do have separate and individually controlled houses.

The Taiwanese are used to the threats from China, as they have been going on for decades. Honestly, it is still going to take a couple of years before the chinese military could successfully launch an attack on Taiwan. They just dont have the navy to do it...yet.


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29th May, 2008 - 3:25am / Post ID: #

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The US has said they will aide Taiwan if that ever happens. I believe we have a couple of Threads here where some generals see the upcoming Chinese Navy as a real Threat to world peace.

* China vs. USA
* Is something bad about to happen?
* Preparing for China

Being that you are more familiar with the area I would like to read your take on if a lot of what we Discussed in those Threads are valid things to be worried about or if it is just a lot of hot air. Thanks.


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29th May, 2008 - 5:50am / Post ID: #

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Sure, I will take a look at those threads and see if I have anything of value to add. As for Taiwan vs China, well, with the KMT taking control of the government, I see at least a few years of less tense talk between China and Taiwan. Honestly, I really dont think China wants to bring this thing to a head as the response from the rest of the world wouldnt be to China's favor.

China actually enjoys, as much as the Taiwanese, the status quo that has been Taiwan. China says that Taiwan is part of China. Taiwan disagrees but does not declare independence. With the DPP in charge, Taiwan was very close to claiming full independence from China. That is why you had several years with some pretty heated rhetoric flowing back and forth across the strait. With the KMT in charge, this wont happen, but the KMT wont actually say that Taiwan is owned by China. That is something that the people of Taiwan just wont accept.

China is in a very similar situation to that of Federalist Russia. If they let their claim to Taiwan go, than what is keeping the other providences as part of China. If Taiwan got total freedom in name as well as actions, then Tibet should be let go, Hong Kong has not reason to be part of China and what about the other providences. Many of the providences would actually prefer to govern themselves, so China must try to keep all of their territories under control or at least not claiming souverenty.

Right now, China's navy is not sufficient to attack Taiwan. Should they launch an attack, the Taiwanese military could take out pretty much all targets before they hit landfall. Now, the pace that China is growing their navy, by about 2010 according to experts, they could successfully make it across the strait.

For other reasons, I really dont think this will ever come to pass. Personally, I believe that the spread of capitalism has sunk its teeth into communist China and it is only a matter of time before they switch to a socialist/democratic style republic. Having visited Beijing and Shanghai, there are ways to tell you are in a communist country, but they are diminishing according to friends that have visited the country for the last couple of decades. The government cannot take away the riches that capitalism has brought to its people or their would be serious backlash. Think about it...there is a WalMart in Beijing! I see China Communism falling much in the same fashion that Russian Communism did...and without a bullet being fired.


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Post Date: 9th Jun, 2008 - 11:52am / Post ID: #

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Post Date: 11th Jun, 2008 - 3:33pm / Post ID: #

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Taiwanese envoys arrive in China

A high-level delegation from Taiwan arrives in China for the first talks since the two sides ended formal discussions 10 years ago.
Ref. https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/a...fic/7447536.stm

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12th Jun, 2008 - 11:03am / Post ID: #

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More pre-Olympic face value actions by China to make them look good?

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First fruit of China-Taiwan talks

Negotiators from China and Taiwan agree to host representative offices, in their first formal talks for a decade.
Ref. https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/a...fic/7447536.stm


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13th Jun, 2008 - 12:26am / Post ID: #

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Actually, it is followup on a promiss that the new president of Taiwan made in his election bid. He said their would be stronger ties and more communication and there will be. They are also working on allowing direct flights between the two countries (political passengers only). The only way you can get there now is through a 2nd country.


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