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Pope Benedict Xvi Islam Speech - Studies of Catholicism - Posted: 19th Sep, 2006 - 10:23am
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Is this what he really meant or was he misunderstood? Do Muslims everywhere need be concerned or are they making a big deal about nothing?
Post Date: 15th Sep, 2006 - 10:29pm / Post ID: #
NOTE: News [?]
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CAIRO, Egypt (Reuters) -- Muslim leaders have condemned Pope Benedict XVI over comments he made about Islam on a visit to Germany and demanded he apologize. The head of the Egyptian-based Muslim Brotherhood called on Islamic countries to threaten to break off relations with the Vatican unless the pontiff withdrew his remarks. And a top religious figure in Turkey suggested the pope should reconsider a trip he was planning to Turkey later this year. The Vatican issued a statement to say the pope had never meant to offend Islam.
Ref. https://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/0...ction=cnn_world
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I am amazed that such a thing could cause the Muslims to kill a nun and storm the streets burning things. The Pope again apologized, what more do they want?
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| POPE APOLOGIZES AFTER FUROR OVER REMARKS Pope Benedict XVI said he was "deeply sorry" in a personal apology made Sunday to Muslims who were upset by his use of a quotation that called some Islamic teachings on holy war "evil and inhuman." Ref. https://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2006/09/17/pope.html |
On another note, I am sure the Pope will be reading his speeches a little closer in case it may have a dual message, and I think it best to not quote anyone about Islam again unless it is specifically in their favor. In other words, Pope, do not say what you want to say because you can instill riots!
Post Date: 18th Sep, 2006 - 6:29pm / Post ID: #
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ITALIAN NUN KILLED BY SOMALI GUNMEN
Gunmen shot and killed an Italian nun at a children's hospital in Somalia's capital on Sunday, hours after a leading Muslim cleric in Mogadishu condemned the Pope for his remarks on Islam and violence.
Ref. https://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/200...17/somalia.html
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I don't think that the Pope should have apologized at all. After all, aren't the Muslims in the news proving the point that violence is a part of their culture and religion? They are rioting and murdering in the "name of Allah."
It would be refreshing if a whole bunch of world leaders would start to acknowledge the truth.
Update:
https://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/18508.html#
UK Muslim Leader Calls for Assassination of Pope 
Edited: Nighthawk on 18th Sep, 2006 - 11:43pm
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| After all, aren't the Muslims in the news proving the point that violence is a part of their culture and religion |
Exactly, that's the first thing I thought when I heard the news. It is so contradictory that they are so "offended" by the remarks yet they are doing exactly what the Pope referred in his remarks! I wonder if they see that?
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The ironic thing is... the Pope gave a second apology and they are not accepting it... there is no forgiveness with Islam? Or is it that there is no forgiveness because of the ignorance of those within Islam who 'think' they are portraying what the Koran wants them to, when in the end they are only fulfilling their own whims.
The next question is... Will the Pope by visiting Islamic based countries now that he has said all of this?
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The demand an apology, and when they get it, they say it's not enough and go on a rampage. "We aren't violent! How dare you publicly claim we are violent! Just for that, we're going to kill as many Catholics as we can get away with!" Absurd.
IMO
Roz
Post Date: 19th Sep, 2006 - 10:23am / Post ID: #
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Just got in, but thought I'd share this with you, from an article in the New York Times (which could hardly be construed as a religious press):
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SEEN in context, Pope Benedict XVI's citation last week of a 14th-century Byzantine emperor who claimed that the Prophet Muhammad brought 'things only evil and inhuman" to the world was not intended as an anti-Islamic broadside. The pope's real target in his lecture at the University of Regensburg, in Germany, was not Islam but the West, especially its tendency to separate reason and faith. He also denounced religious violence, hardly a crusader's sentiment. The uproar in the Muslim world over the comments is thus to some extent a case of "German professor meets sound-bite culture," with a phrase from a tightly wrapped academic argument shot into global circulation, provoking an unintended firestorm. In fact, had Benedict wanted to make a point about Islam, he wouldn't have left us guessing about what he meant. He's spoken and written on the subject before and since his election as pope, and a clear stance has emerged in the first 18 months of his pontificate. Benedict wants to be good neighbors, but he's definitely more of a hawk on Islam than was his predecessor, John Paul II. The new pope is tougher both on terrorism and on what the Vatican calls "reciprocity" - the demand that Islamic states grant the same rights and freedoms to Christians and other religious minorities that Muslims receive in the West. When Benedict said in his apology on Sunday that he wants a "frank and sincere dialogue," the word "frank" was not an accident. He wants dialogue with teeth. |
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