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Nice try, but I already knew you would try this route. Lucky for us, you don't seem to have any concept of history. The Persians (not white) enslave nearly every other nation of the world. The European nations enslaved their own peoples (mostly white) into serfdom for centuries. Blacks in Africa enslaved other blacks in Africa (which race was more superior then?). The same has happened all over the world for thousands of years. The Egyptians (not white) enslaved many other nations as well. Only recent history has white enslaving black.

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If you know so much then who runs the richest countries in the world and where is everyone trying to get in? It aint Africa!

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Yes, but think about why that is True White. It is not because of race it is because of politics. European settlors, like those who took over America, pretty much destroyed Africa by dividing the continent between themselves with no regard to the local populations already well set up tribal boundaries. This led to conflict between the indigenous populations which in turn kept them from battling against the Europeans who were oppressing them. As it is now, the countries of Africa rule themselves but those old conflicts remain - with a whole load of new ones to do with religion and the control of food resources.

Having said that, Africa is not one country but many. Countries within it like Morroco and South Africa are doing well (in comparison to their neighbours at least) so it is wrong to talk about the continent as though it is one mass. The reason Zimbabwe is collapsing into an unbelievable mess is because of the utter barbarity and stupidity of its government and its President Mugabe.

You will note that he took the same racist line against white people you take against blacks and this is one of the reasons the farms in the country are turning to dust. Racist policies do not work because they unnecessarily discount an entire section of the population's skills and hence those talents are lost to the country's own detriment.

That isn't being PC; it is just common sense.

Your statement doesn't take account of the fact that you are applying your logic to only this one moment of history and have deliberately ignored the x thousand years of history I and others on this forum have posted about. Whose to say that in 500 years the African continent will not be the dominant force in world politics? As as already been mentioned Europe was once the main world power, now it is America, in a while it will be China ( with India coming up from the rear.) Things change.

Edited: Dougiep on 20th Dec, 2007 - 10:08am

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Less than 5% of the world owns over 90% of the worlds wealth. Guess what percent of white people aren't rich either! You have this odd perception that white people are some how running this world. How come some of the richest people in the world are arabs who are of course, you guessed it, not white. Yeah, see, the middle eastern countries that control the oil, or south american countries that have oil are the ones really pulling the strings, and none of those are white countries. I'm not making this stuff up, you can use the internet if you need to.

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In case you haven't noticed the most brilliant minds have been white Germans or just plain and simple whites. Most of the technology we have today we have to thank a white mind for.

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Um...not really true mathematics for example:


Different cultures have made their own forms of mathematics. The Mayans, Indians, Greeks, and Chinese all developed seperate math systems. Our mathematics today comes mainly from ideas developed in ancient India and Greece. Algebra and other topics were taken from India to Arabia, where they were then transferred to Europe. Most of our geometry comes from the Greeks. Calculus was developed in Europe by Sir Isaac Newton.
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...01224653AAwWKSG

I urge you also to look at the following link re American inventors and scientists who happened to be black:

https://inventors.about.com/library/invento...rimer6_12aa.htm

And consider the following Top Ten Black Inventors:

https://teacher.scholastic.com/activities/bhistory/inventors/

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Do you think listing a few instances will dwarf the hundreds of white ment that have contributed to the development of the world?

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I did not mean that no white person has ever contributed to the world in some way merely that a person does not have to be white in order to have the intelligence to do so. Also, I do not consider the development of the entire subject of mathematics to be a "one off" event but the accumulation of may years of research and hard work that started in cultures established in Asia and the Middle East where white faces are few and far between.

To completely dismiss the influence and creations of non-white inventors scientists and philosophers to the world is just as fool-hardy as trying to dismiss the contributions of all white people. You say you are Christian and so you too follow ideas put forward by a non-white man from the Middle East. Jesus was from Palestine and was not of the white European descent you seem to hold in overly positive regard. Nelson Mandela helped bring a healing peace to South Africa after Apartheid and Ghandi is considered one of the most influential thinkers regarding peaceful co-existence in the world. These two great men are not white. Michael Faraday (he who discovered electricity) and Albert Einstein (I'm guessing you know who he is!) were white.

Their race does not signify however. Merely that they had excellent ideas and were strong enough in their convictions to put them forward.

Edited: Dougiep on 6th Jan, 2008 - 5:40pm