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Post Date: 29th Jan, 2017 - 8:52pm / Post ID: #

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Trump follows through on campaign promises, and chaos ensues

President Donald Trump has grabbed the headlines and prompted protests in the streets and the courts by doing precisely what he said he would do if elected. Trump has in effect created his own sense of crisis, a situation he seems to find useful when it comes to dominating the debate and conducting negotiations. Ref. USAToday.

Post Date: 29th Jan, 2017 - 11:23pm / Post ID: #

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I totally disagree with the way this moratorium was enacted. It should have been rolled out with a lot more information. First, it is not a ban, it is a moratorium to allow our the proper organs of government to develop ways to vet the people coming to the US from certain countries. As I've said elsewhere, I've spent many years in the Middle East and I know there are some very bad people over there who want to hurt us. They are willing to go to any lengths to hurt us. They are willing to use children to hurt us. I saw just this in Afghanistan. I know they will recruit people that aren't on our radar and we have to figure out how to identify that. So, I think this policy is the right policy. I think it was rolled out in the most unprofessional way possible.

As far as comparing this to what we did to the Japanese in WW II, this isn't even close. What we did to the Japanese, American citizens of Japanese descent, was disgusting. We either confiscated their property or forced them to sell at bargain basement prices and then we moved them into internment camps. These people were American. Horrible. The crazy thin is they then volunteers to fight for us in the WW II. Some fought in the Pacific as interpreters. They absolutely put their lives at double jeopardy because the Japanese would have killed them instantly had they been captured. They also served in Europe as part of the 442nd RCT. This was the most decorated unit of it's size in our history. A tremendous number of Medals of Honor and other medals came out of this unit. They did this for the country that put them in internment camps.

As a retired soldier I cannot say enough how incredible this unit's service was.

Post Date: 29th Jan, 2017 - 11:31pm / Post ID: #


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Trump is issuing executive orders without thinking about the wider effect. By the way what is extensive vetting… haven't we been doing that all these years or is it only now starting just because Trump is president? They use the San Bernardino shooting as an example when it was carried out by an American citizen so a ban would not have done anything to stop that from happening. Trump has only been a week in office and already the world hates us more and people are protesting everywhere!


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Post Date: 29th Jan, 2017 - 11:33pm / Post ID: #


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I used Japan as an example of what this can turn out to be. It always starts subtle, a little change here and there and then the next thing you know we are doing it to all.

President trump already tweeted this was a "Muslim ban" and then blamed the media in another tweet for saying it was a "Muslim ban". Now tell me if this is not crazy.


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Post Date: 30th Jan, 2017 - 2:07am / Post ID: #

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Actually we have virtually not been vetting at all. I'm sure the first thought is that I'm either out of my mind or I don't know what I'm talking about. So, let me explain. Many of these people are coming from countries where the infrastructure has virtually broken down. Because of that, finding out who they are is very difficult. Next, they come from areas that are behind us technologically. There is no big database that has all their SSNs. Heck, in most of the countries I've been to in the Middle East they still use forms with carbon paper and keep everything in file cabinets. Now, add to that many people have aliases. They do that not to hide their identities but because it's part of their culture. When you add all of these together you'll see that vetting is extremely difficult. Now one might ask have the people coming here have been vetted? Well, I can tell you that State does better in some countries and not so good in others. Care to guess which countries we're the worst in?

Yes, this administration did a horrible job rolling this out. Yes, he never should have tweeted anything. There should have been a press conference and it should have been thoroughly explained. It wasn't. I do not love our current President… I don't even like him much. But this time he is correct. Is it a ban on Muslim people… not exactly. But it is a ban on people from predominantly Muslim countries because is where the threat is. Does that suck for the people that aren't a threat? Yes it does. But the Government's job is to keep us safe and if that includes hurting some people who aren't even citizens feelings then that is what it has to do. As I stated before, this is exactly the same thing we did when we targeted everyone from Germany, Italy, and Japan during WW II. I'm not talking about the citizens already here, we already discussed that. I'm talking about the total travel ban on immigration from those countries while we were at war.

Post Date: 30th Jan, 2017 - 11:40am / Post ID: #


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Finally someone is actually doing something to stop the nonsense at our borders that has been going on for decades and suddenly everyone is angry about it.


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Post Date: 31st Jan, 2017 - 5:30pm / Post ID: #

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Trump administration to allow 872 refugees into U.S. This week

The U.S. Government has granted waivers to let 872 refugees into the country this week because of hardship concerns, the Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday. Ref. USAToday.

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Some logic should be made in implementing this executive order from the American president. Look what happened to our former PM: Source 5k the officers at the airport need to be trained.


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