Related Information to China vs USA

China vs USA - Page 9

But those were very communistic countries of the time, they arent the same countries now - not by a long shot. Russia is not looking to expand communism throughout the globe anymore and China is so knee-deep into capitalism that their people are more worried about getting flat screened TV's vs fighting a neighbor for land. China's policies are focused on just trying to keep what the preceive as theirs at the moment.

Indian Relations are improving:

https://www.hindu.com/2008/06/01/stories/2008060155811000.htm

If you are interested in a educated guess as to what the Chinese have in their arsenal, take a look here:

https://www.globalsecurity.org/military/wor...hina/index.html

Top of the line, no, but the spending is climbing quickly. As the spending climbs, I am sure their taste for better things will climb as well.

One other thing to note on how different things are today... China is the number 1 consumer of Russian Oil. Russia likes their petrol dollars and China needs the oil to fuel their country. Why go to war...just throttle back the barrels per day.

USA China

Name: Panzer

Comments: So, how does China control the Panama canal? I remember earlier some one said they had de facto control of it. What kind of thin air did the pluck this out of? Is it safe to say that the E.U. would back us on this?

China vs USA History & Civil Business Politics

The world does not want war. The EU and the UN are war weary. The EU and the UN would get their feathers in a uproar if it were the Suez Canal, but not the Panama Canal. Of course, that is my opinion.

Rather off topic, but... The only thing I could see the EU and the UN getting behind is if Iran attacked Israel. That would bring a fairly united response from most nations. Many would obstain and refuse to send troops, but the UN and EU would respond.

As for the Panama Canal, it is in the hands of the Chinese de facto. Hong Kong Hutchison Whampoa has the operational rights to both sides of the canal. When the canal was handed back to the Panamanians, they didnt want to run it and farmed it out by contract. That is when Hutchison Whampoa steped in and got the bid. Upon closer look, Hutchison Whampoa is more than just a Hong Kong company. They are based out of Hong Kong, but are owned by the Chinese and to be more exact...chinese that rank pretty high in the communist government.

https://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m157..._15/ai_55481519
https://www.conservativeusa.org/panama-washtimes.htm

Here is the best part...Hutchison Whampoa can deny passage of ships through the canal. This was a huge screw up on our governments part. It is also the only reason that people took a look at when the high bidder for Virginia Port Security was found out to be from Dubai. A good company, but should we be trusting our ports security to foreign companies?

Page 9 USA China

Name: Panzer

Comments: So, if neither the E.U. or India or Russia want to help, my response would be bomb military and government bases with those B-2s I love(radar cross-section of a bumblebee) until their air force and navy are non-existent. So why do we take orders from the owners of the Panama canal? Is Hong Kong still a separate country? Why didn't we build 100 megaton nukes? The Russians could do it 50 years ago! So, in short, U.S.A. navy/air force > PLAN / PLAAF, PLA > or equal to US.army/ US.m.c.+E.U./ India/ Russia = dead Chinese.

USA China

Hong Kong was returned to Chinese control in 1997 from decades of Brittish Rule. There are several rules to the hand over that basically make China a protectorate of Hong Kong until 2047.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong

Why didnt we build a 100 megaton nuke? Basically, we already had the deturent. Obviously, we stopped the Megaton Envy situation with Russia and started a "Star Wars Approach".

You know, bombs dont go bad. They can last forever. It isnt like they have a freshness date on them. If we go to bombing China, the best we could hope for is a ceasefire. Likely, the Russians would side with the Chinese as the 2 together would be impossible to stop and asian supergiant. Russia has to support their #1 oil customer not to mention that they in general have never really liked the US. Throw in the nut from N.Korea and they could pound us with more missiles than we could them. The EU would probably be split in half in the way of support.

There is little doubt that the US military currently could take out the Chinese military, but the gap is closing and quickly. China has grown so fast that it is on the verge of becoming a superpower. While we could probably drop every ship they have and take out their planes and tanks...we would never be able to occupy the country. It is just too big.

China vs USA

Name: Panzer

Comments: Are we comparing the USA on economic, strategic, or tactical levels. I know most on the tactical level.

Message Edited... Persephone: Please use uppercase letters as appropriate: names, start of sentence, etc.

China USA - Page 9

The title of this lends itself in the discussion to go in any direction we would like...it is pretty open ended. If you look at the topic title and the subtitle, the subtitle mentions; politics, military and position in the world.

China USA Politics Business Civil & History - Page 9

Name: Panzer

Comments: Militarily, the only thing China has going for them is numbers of MEN, whereas the U.S. has more material, like tanks, planes, ships,plus more experience. My strategy would be to hit the Politburo's office, every missile silo, then every radar dish, then air bases, then naval bases, then tank storage facilities via aircraft carriers. Once all of this is destroyed, we begin landing forces. After a ridiculously large civilian firebombing campaign, then and equally ridiculous shore bombardment, the first armor hits the beach. If waiting to have air supremacy sounds wrong, look at Germany in WWII. In 1944, Germany ran out of runways(*hint hint* they lost)! also, in that same war, we raised and army of 12,000,000 soldiers(according to the Army)! If they could do that 60 years ago, with a smaller population, they could certainly do it know. Anyway, the fire bombings would ruin china economically, since, as you said, their would be almost nothing left. Thats my military campaign strategy.