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USA Are you a Black or Spanish USA Citizen? Do you feel discriminated? Is the US denying that there is a serious problem among their own?
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4th Feb, 2003 - 10:22am / Post ID: #

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Wow, I was amazed seeing those stadistics. First of all, regards to the school system in the USA it's true that if a person lives in a 'black' neighboorhood the school that they will be going will be mostly with black population on. Isn't funny this thing of the USA with black or hispanic or white neighboorhoods? My goodness! we are in the year 2003!. I cannot understand how a country that is 'considered' first world is so far back in their mentality about races.
Any black or hispanic living in the USA suffered some kind of dicrimination in their lifetime, whoever say they don't or either are lying or they live in a dream and they don't want to admit it maybe because of embarrasment and it's understandable.
Everytime there is a serious crime they always do this 'racial profile' that I don't understand why is neccesary!.
Yes, discrimination occurs everywhere...but let's admit that in the USA is a big issue that they still dealing with.


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4th Feb, 2003 - 10:43am / Post ID: #

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Here I found some interesting facts about the discrimination of hispanic people in the USA. You can read the whole article at https://www.neta.com/~1stbooks/law2001.htm

*WILLIAM RENQUIST: Present, Supreme Court Chief Justice While a young man in Phoenix, Arizona, he set up outside a polling place on election day and  questioned Black, Hispanic and Indian people on their qualifications to make an informed decision in the election booth. After complaints were filed with the local police over this illegal action he was ordered by a police officer to remove himself and cease this activity or risk arrest.

* 1998 California dismantled the state's bilingual education system and included a provision allowing teachers to be held personally liable for not implementing the new law.   (The TGH is violated again; instead of upholding the Supreme Court decision of March 1848, the legislatures pass laws which are
anti Hispanic).


* 1999 New York City Latino police officer association honors the parents of Anthony Baez who was unjustly slain by a white police officer.

* 2001 throughout the U.S.  The assumption at most levels of government that American Hispanics "are immigrants".

2001, Mexican truck debate in the Senate:  Attemps to impose restrictions on Mexican trucks what would be toughter than requirements for Canadian trucks.  The Senate took up legislation that would impose Twenty Two (22) more  strict safety and insurance requirements on Mexican trucks bound forU.S. highways - 22 more than are required of American or Canadian counterparts.



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Post Date: 10th Feb, 2003 - 4:02pm / Post ID: #

Are Black & Hispanic USA Citizens Discriminated?
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Yes, I believe that dark-skinned people are discrimminated against throughout the world. No question about it. The USA is just one more country amongst many that discriminate against darker-skinned people. Asians seem more accepted here in the US because many Asians have lighter and more beautiful skin.
Slavery in Saudi Arabia was alive and well until in 1961-2 when King Faisal abolished it (legally).  Black (Ex-Ethiopians, former slaves) in Saudi Arabia have their own sub-culture. They are a very homogeneous group of people who stick to themselves. In the classroom, young Saudi men in my classes openly make fun of anyone who has dark skin - African or not because of the color of their skin. They believe that dark represents filth and general dullness about some things.  At the same time, everyone there readily agree that darker-skinned people are equal in the eyes of God.  Most people in countries I have ever lived in or traveled through have been rascist to a certain extent or another. In the Philippines, for example, darker-skinned natives are presumed to come from the native tribes in the different islands and are less desirable as mates, etc. The more white,  the more Spanish blood they have in their ancestry - from Magellan's crew. This is considered beautiful in many Filipino opinions.
The US is the most open country in the world in admitting this problem and has made attempts to stop discrimination of Women, Blacks, handicapped people (blind, deaf, mentally challenged etc) etc by passing laws that specifically prohibit such overt acts of discrimination. These laws however don't stop people from discriminating. Many just hide it.  It is said that in the US today, the best possible existence can be had by a handicapped minority between 21 and 39 with a college education because they can get practically any decent Government job or Large Corporate Job at the Mid-level because there are financial and tax benefit incentives in place for corporations who hire minorities.  In a very real sense, in the USA, reverse-discrimination is occurring.  So it's too early to see how all these equal-rights etc laws will help the situation. I don't think any positive result will be seen for another 50 to 100 years if at all. These things take time.  

11th Feb, 2003 - 12:11pm / Post ID: #

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great post nephi, I would like you to post in the LDS section about if God discriminates races. I have an issue about that if you read that post. Thanks.


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8th Apr, 2003 - 1:12pm / Post ID: #

Discriminated Citizens USA Hispanic and Black Are

I can see lawyers having a field day with this, terminology such as "must be
evidence that the culprits intended to intimidate an individual or a
group"
leaves lots for lawyers to play with.

From USAToday:

Cross-burning ruling hinges on threat
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States may prosecute people for burning crosses, but there must be
evidence that the culprits intended to intimidate an individual or a
group, the Supreme Court said Monday in a 6-3 ruling that revealed
profound divisions among justices.


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Post Date: 8th Apr, 2003 - 3:02pm / Post ID: #

Are Black & Hispanic USA Citizens Discriminated?
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Are Black & Hispanic USA Citizens Discriminated?

Do I really want to weigh in on this?

First of all, when this subject is brought up, everyone takes a vastly complex subject and oversimplifies it.

What do you mean by discrimination in the first place? In what area; economic, social, legal, what? Each area could be discussed for days on end.

Yes, there is discrimination everywhere, at all levels of society, and it is practiced by "minorities" as assidiously as by "whites". It is the nature of the beast to be cliquish, clannish and to want to be the elite, the "elect", the "chosen".

Each cultural subgroup has their own customs, style, "lingo", habits, etc., that others don't like. Period. You can't legislate personal preferences.

When you get into the area of business and  commerce, you come across some of the most stupid attempts to solve this I have ever seen. They are myriad and would bog down the server to go into them. Suffice it to say that, in a capitalistic society you will never have non-discriminatory practices, because capitalism is, by nature, discriminatory. It seeks the best, the highest achievers, the most ambitious. The rest fall by the wayside, and too bad for them. Anything else is socialism, and that simply doesn't work.

I will stop now because my fingers are getting tired.

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I can't resist this. LDS, does God discriminate? Go read what Yahweh told Joshua when they first hit Cannan.

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8th Apr, 2003 - 3:27pm / Post ID: #

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What do you mean by discrimination in the first place? In what area; economic, social, legal, what? Each area could be discussed for days on end.

All of them and we do not have a rush to go anywhere wink.gif

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I can't resist this. LDS, does God discriminate? Go read what Yahweh told Joshua when they first hit Cannan.

We discusses this before on another board, but I am sure LDS will repond to your question wink.gif


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8th Apr, 2003 - 4:27pm / Post ID: #

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First of all, when this subject is brought up, everyone takes a vastly complex subject and oversimplifies it.


*LDS_forever raise hands on high and says  'Stranger, teach us' then* :smile.gif ;D


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What do you mean by discrimination in the first place? In what area; economic, social, legal, what? Each area could be discussed for days on end.


In all areas of course, but personally I am interested in social.

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Yes, there is discrimination everywhere, at all levels of society, and it is practiced by "minorities" as assidiously as by "whites". It is the nature of the beast to be cliquish, clannish and to want to be the elite, the "elect", the "chosen".

Each cultural subgroup has their own customs, style, "lingo", habits, etc., that others don't like. Period. You can't legislate personal preferences.


That's what I studied in Sociology when I was in college but like I told my professor that it doesn't make it right or acceptable. Also, it's a form of excuse because of our actions. Come on, we can change anything that can be hurtful to other people. There is a line between to not like a person because of a certain race and to insult them openly because of that. That's NOT a personal preference, that's an injustice, ignorant and hateful behavior that can and must be changed.

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Suffice it to say that, in a capitalistic society you will never have non-discriminatory practices, because capitalism is, by nature, discriminatory. It seeks the best, the highest achievers, the most ambitious. The rest fall by the wayside, and too bad for them. Anything else is socialism, and that simply doesn't work.


Funny enough, some Americans think that the best, the highest achievers, the most ambitious can not be foreigners.  I'm wonder then why every year they spend so much money issuing and sponsoring H1 visas for foreigners to work in Americans Companies...:smile.gif

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I can't resist this. LDS, does God discriminate? Go read what Yahweh told Joshua when they first hit Cannan.


Of course he did that's an issue that I have to talk with him about when I'm in the other side ;D







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