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Russia: 'The Evil Empire'?

In every major world event everyone looks at Russia to see which way they sway. You can never know. Sometimes they support the US in their decisions and other times they do not.

Many believe that the Russians are controlled by their local 'mafia'. Others believe that former communist hardliners still have their positions in government. Even more believe that Russia's current 'democracy' is all just a scam to cover up a hidden agenda.

On the net you can find elaborate plans and ideas given by supposed Russian defectors. Reading them is quite interesting. If they are factual is another question.

However, what do you think? Is Russia stilll the evil empire as Ronald put it?

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NEWS ANALYSIS: 'EMPIRE' LOSING EVIL ASSOCIATION

On June 8, 1982, President Ronald Reagan memorably referred to the Soviet Union
As "The evil empire." His choice of "Empire" -- as opposed to words such as
Nation or state -- revealed more than just a yen for alliteration.
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Post Date: 28th Apr, 2003 - 1:44pm / Post ID: #

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I don't believe so.
It appears that they are in the throws of major upheavel and social change.
It is a rough time for them as a country.
Obviously, we can't just open our arms blindly. Putin is former KGB, remember?

But we do need to remain open, try to work with them, and look to a new type of relatinshiop.

Nothing will do so much good for our relations as good, old-fashioned capitalism taking hold in Russia.
Post Date: 1st May, 2003 - 12:04pm / Post ID: #


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I was thinking more about this article which is now all over the internet:

Defector says Russian plan to dupe America is working
By Christopher Ruddy
FOR THE TRIBUNE-REVIEW

WASHINGTON - Russia cannot threaten the United States. She is poor. She is weak. She is starving. She is in chaos.

Think again, says Stanislav Lunev.

Col. Lunev is the highest ranking military intelligence officer ever to have defected from Russia. He did so in 1992 after the Soviet Union dissolved and Boris Yeltsin had come to power.

At the time of his defection Lunev was living in Washington with his wife, working a cover job as a journalist for TASS, the Russian news agency, while doing his real job: spying on America.

As a GRU officer Lunev's spying related to military matters: gathering information on America's military plans; reporting on U.S. vulnerabilities; devising special operations in the advent of war.

Last year, Lunev detailed just some of his activities in a new book he co-authored with Ira Winkler, "Through the Eyes of the Enemy: Russia's Highest Ranking Military Defector Reveals Why Russia is More Dangerous than Ever" (Regnery, (800) 639-7629).

The book is a light read with some sensational details about Russian plans to bring suitcase nuclear bombs into America and to use special forces to assassinate the president and congressional, military and other leaders during the initial phases of a war.

Lunev claims in "Through the Eyes of the Enemy" that Russian military leaders still view a war with the United States as "inevitable" and that the Cold War never really ended.

Save for some talk radio outlets and the Internet, Lunev's book got little media coverage. This comes as no surprise since most Americans believe the United States won the Cold War. Russia is not a threat and any suggestion that it is has to be written off as just paranoid jingoism.

Lunev is used to unfriendly receptions. When he did defect, higher-ups at the CIA and the Pentagon did not accept what he had to say.

What he said was rather simple. Russia is continuing its old ways. The military is still preparing for war against the United States. A nuclear war.

In the era of fuzzy warm feelings between the United States and Russia, American officials were not going to upset the applecart no matter how much evidence Lunev offered.

In the intervening years, Russia has appeared to further disintegrate. Can she really be a threat? skeptics ask. Lunev most certainly has been proven wrong.

Lunev says think again. He retorts that Russia still retains a formidable military-industrial complex. She is one of the world's largest arms exporters. She makes quality products and delivers them on time.

Russia continues to build nuclear submarines, bombers and missiles. Last year Yeltsin commissioned Peter the Great, the largest ballistic missile cruiser ever built by mankind. This past Christmas, Russia deployed a regiment of 10 Topol-M intercontinental ballistic missiles, missiles reportedly more sophisticated than anything we have. Just last month, Russia unveiled her stealth bomber. The New York Times reports Russia continues to build huge underground bunkers, some as large as cities, in case of war. She also continues to build an arsenal of chemical and biological weapons. Russia's nuclear arsenal remains the world's largest. She continues testing of her nuclear weapons.

The full article can be read here: https://www.spiritoftruth.org/post26.htm

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Post Date: 29th May, 2003 - 11:14am / Post ID: #

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Prior to the fall of the USSR one of the highest leaders of the KGB, Anatoliy Golitsyn, who defected in the late 1960's said that the communist had plans to dissolve the USSR for the sole purpose of causing NATO and especially the United States of America to disarm, therefore leaving the world vonerable to attack once they regrouped and came out of hiding.  It was their plan to control the world and part of the plan even included tearing down the Berlin Wall.  

The Communist still have plans and I would point you to the Communist Part of the United States of America so that you can see what they say:

https://www.cpusa.org/

This is a little of what they have to say:

"Some are saying that the never-ending war policy may render Bush unbeatable in 2004. In reality, the Bush administration and the Congressional Republicans are very vulnerable. Their defeat is of the greatest importance for the future of our country and the world."

Something to think about is this, that we have had Prophets and Apostles warn us of the Communist desire to rule the world.  President Benson has been the most open voice against communism.  I think now, that members of the church ought to go see what propoganda the so called American Communist are creating and see if it does not fit in to the international Bush bashing camp.
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[quote]Prior to the fall of the USSR one of the highest leaders of the KGB, Anatoliy Golitsyn, who defected in the late 1960's said that the communist had plans to dissolve the USSR for the sole purpose of causing NATO and especially the United States of America to disarm[/quote]
However, we must think that if that is true, the original creators of the plan will be dead or too old to care by the time of its execution. So it would have to be a secured pact, I would even say a secret society with signs, tokens, and associations to keep such a huge plan going. This is all based on if it is true.

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It is true, in fact it was published in a book by Golitsyn called "New Lies for Old"

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[quote]It is true, in fact it was published in a book by Golitsyn called "New Lies for Old" [/quote]
It is true because he says so and wrote a book?

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Post Date: 29th May, 2003 - 1:43pm / Post ID: #

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You have to read the book.  The original creators of the plan are not concerned too much about their own ambitions as they are about the party.  Communism is like a relgion, and those that form it have goals for it's future just as much as religious leaders have goals for the future of their religions even if that does not mean they will be alive.  However, we are only talking about the 1960's.  Many of those leaders are alive and well.
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