I agree with that and would add, if we are in the right location (where the institute of religion and firesides are available) I would take opportunity to visit these since you get more in depth analysis into what both the olden prophets and modern-day prophets have to say. For instance if the study is the Book of Revelations then you will get into why John may have used certain symbols, etc. You will not get this from a General Conference.
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I just reread this post. The first time I think I missed something very important. JB's theory, which was then also mentioned as a possibility by others is very likely, in my opinion.
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Men are 'marked' based on the things they do. If a man uses his hand to do evil, for example to rob, and his mind to think of pornography, then he is marked and inherits a spiritual companion that is close friends with the 'Beast'. |
hi folks,
Best thing you could do is invest in a good greek english lexicon.
liddle and Scott wrote in 1840 and it is still in print. No wonder it is good!!
Then next obtain a copy of the greek for the testament.
Look up the words and translate them.
MY father did that for me . It is a cool book and message.
It says in there" in the end the earth will heal,in the end the earth will heal."
no great mystery there.
My father was so furious when he realized what it really said,He walked around the house mumbling for days on how stupid he was to never check the translation before this.
I asked him to and he retranslated the whole book of revelations and had it printed.If you want to know what it really said just drop me a posting and I will give you the site address for buying the book.
samurai1
An interesting point on a possible relation of 666 from George Albert Smith:
It is comendible that you have read the Journal of Discourses.I have so enjoyed reading them. That is not the issue thou is it?
The point being that if we take the stand of my friend Joseph that we "believe the bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly" then we need to look at the translation first
This my father did.The same word we use for 6 is found in the book of john and there it is correctly translated. Now as my father says we should translate the word with a single meaning when the same author is using it. That makes sense to me...How about to you ?
thus 666 is a mis translation. The rest is mute. As your quote says it can be constrewed to mean anything.
Is not truth the object of our quest. That we may understand. For man cannot be saved in ignorance. Then it surely will take more to be exhalted.
The serch for truth is fun it will take you to places you never dreamed of.
samurai
As a brand new member, this thread intrigued me. Primarily because some time ago I engaged in some extensive study of the topic. My view on this subject differs from most in evangelical christianity. It is interesting that there is almost a complete dearth of speeches or talks given by the brethren on the topic. Anyway, I wrote a small article concerning it at:
666: Of Men, Marks, Beasts and the Sealing Power
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Steven Montgomery
O ye Priest of Baal. O, ye gentile religionest O. ye inhabitants of Babylon possessing the Mark of the beast What knowledge have ye of the ordinances or blessings or virtues of the house & Church of God (The Kirtland Diary of Wilford Woodruff)
I didn't take the time to read through this completely, but the fact of the matter is, we're talking Hebrew numerology, not some kind of code. Each number had a specific meaning, and a combination of certain numbers has a similar meaning to the root number, like the 144,000 has a root number of 12, which has to do with the tribes of Israel and the literal gathering, to name an example.
666 is total evil, or imperfection.
When John wrote the Book of Revelation, he was exiled on the Isle of Patmos by the governor in the area of the Roman empire that he lived, I think his name was Domician. Paul referred to him as "the beast", as well as the devil, because Domician was an evil man that tried to kill him by boiling him in a vat of oil. (See the writings of... oh, I think his name was Clementine or something.) Not only did he try to end John's life, but he also killed thousands and thousands of Christians to help his political standing. The "mark of the beast" was one way of John saying that if anyone bore the currency at the time, which had a representation of Domician on it, they were in trouble.
I learned about this in one of my institute classes, and it's not very well quoted, but the idea is there. Research Hebrew numerology,and it'll make more sense.
-Tony