The people PRESENT voted (not unanimously, BTW) to accept the Manifesto, but there was no revelation that was voted upon, and the Manifesto wasn't voted on as doctrine, but as policy.
I think you are completely right about the Priesthood and blacks.
|In all fairness, I should mention that just because something is "doctrine" doesn't necessarily make it true|
What do you exactly mean?
|QUOTE (LDS_forever @ 7-Apr 04, 3:26 PM)|
|I personally don't think it was doctrinal for the simple fact that the banning of the Priesthood to the blacks was not brought to the Church for vote (isn't ALL doctrine of the Church be brought to the Church for sustaining and vote?). So I don't fully understand why the Quorum of the Twelve in 1978 and First Presidency voted to stop the banning of the Priesthood to the blacks, I don't understand it because if I'm not wrong (please people feel free to tell me if I am) the matter was not brought to the Quorum of the Twelve in the first place. (to ban blacks from holding the Priesthood). The Church did not sustain such thing as far as I'm concerned.|
|Thus saith the Lord to my servant Spencer: My son, at what time in this dispensation have I commanded my saints to withhold the priesthood from the blood of Cain? Had my servants the prophets, your brethren who preceded you, asked me about this point, I would have instructed them, but they chose their own wisdom and sought their own interpretation. Now that you come before me and ask, I say unto you that it is not my will that the priesthood and temple blessings be withheld from any man of my church who is worthy of it. Amen.|
|Had I been a member in '78, I would not have consented. I would have demanded to have the actual revelation received read to the conference for approval. But the saints, in typical "follow the prophet" drone-like behaviour, merely accepted an official declaration instead of the purported revelation it was based on. And that OD is now binding upon us.|
|and mentioning that they do not know why the Lord had it this way|
Thank you for this thread. This issue has been the hardest one in the church for me, and still is. I think they made a mistake and it took over 100 years to admit it. As a caucasion with a mixed child, it has been hard to be a member of a church that had that policy - even though it is no longer there.
When I tried to research it, and was given books written in the 50's about it, I got so angry at their tone and self-righteousness that I threw the books away and didn't go to church for many years. South Africaneers used the same biblical reasons to justify Apartheid.
Because of it, I don't fully trust all the doctrines of the Church.. some issues may come from man and not from God. So I ponder things out in my own mind and ask God if they are true in my own heart... Ironically its been my black friends who have helped the most - they have been the most charitable and helped me see that the church is about our Saviour and his plan of redemption - and not about how some people (mis)interpreted things.
Leilai, in what way did you feel this thread helped you? Those books you were asked to read... do you remember the names by chance?
leilai, welcome aboard. I know this issue is a touchy one, and there are several questions that I still looking for the answers but I know if you are really interested, then you can find the answers you are looking for through deep study and Prayer.
I just came across this article of a newspaper clipping in the Salt Lake Tribune back in 1970 where it quotes Pres. McKay stating the priesthood ban was not and never was doctinal. I assume he thinks the early prophets were mistaken.