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Noo! Really. Well, we will never know for sure, because no one is ever going to admit to it. I am not sure how I feel about that type of torture. A part of me feels that if it works and saves lives then do it, but if it doesn't work part of me still feels like so what, they are evil and deserve it. However, I don't think I really feel that way, that is just my anger towards what they have done coming out. Truth is, when you torture someone, how do you know for sure they have any valid information to give you? If they don't then they are innocent and don't deserve to be tortured. How do you know or not before you torture them, so, I don't know what to think! ?

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Well we are starting to see a different side of you... maybe this is the boot camp side?

Well I would suspect there would be probable cause, I do not think it is a random affair.

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Definitively my NOT Christian side!

But even with probable cause it is still possible the suspicion is wrong and they don't really have the information. In that case an innocent person has been tortured.  I am sure it probably happens, but the thought is not a pretty one.

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Well that is why the whole procedure is questionable. Who decides if someone should be tortured or not? It certainly is not a court of law, so then who?

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I know, that is why this is really such a tough question.  At first "blush" we might say no because of exactly the reasons mentioned previously, or we might be like me and say yes for the other reasons mentioned.  But, then, if we really dig deeper, it gets way more complicated.  

We have already talked about innocent people ending up tortured, so maybe the answer should be no.  However, what if it was my close relative that was going to die in the next attack and the only way to find the details necessary to stop it was through torture.  Would I care then how and who makes the decision for whom to torture.  Probably not, but is this the "correct" position to take from a humanity view?   I don't know, but it has got me thinking. ???

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This thread is very difficult to answer with a yes or no answer huh? but we must all agree that tortune is NOT a right method, whether it maybe useful or not in certain circumnstances it doesn't make it right.

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Unfortunately, LDS, I have to agree with you.  I don't want to, because my instinct is to do whatever it takes to get the answers we need from terrorists or others in order to save lives.  You are correct though, it is NOT "right."  At least in my opinion.  You have convinced me, but I am not happy about it. :'(

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[quote]You have convinced me, but I am not happy about it.[/quote]

Oh what are you not happy about?