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vs. This is not about the Israel vs. Palestine issue covered in another thread. This is about every other country in the Middle East, yes, Israel has many enemies, in fact they surround her.
10th Aug, 2006 - 7:19am / Post ID: #

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First, where is this "news" coming from? ABC, NBC, CNN? You have to consider the source.
The United Nations has never, and will never be worth the air it breathes. They have never once in their history solved a problem, or done anything but talk. A famous person once said they very closely resemble the bar scene in the movie Star Wars.
From the "news."

QUOTE
"Don't these bastards learn anything from history?"

We are supposed to believe the Lebanese "army" is going to stand between Israel and Hesbolah? The Lebanese army is Hesbolah. Yes, the world has learned something from history. Never trust anything a terrorist says, especially if it is quoted in "the news."



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Post Date: 10th Aug, 2006 - 8:45am / Post ID: #

Israel Vs. The Middle East
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East Middle Vs Israel

People are dyeing there everyday, I think is not an issue on who is right or not and who should back off . Stop the war and then talk solutions. One question is still in my mind: Is still about the 2 soldiers kidnaped one month ago, because if that is it, the body count would suggest that israel is not so good on economics.

10th Aug, 2006 - 12:50pm / Post ID: #

Israel Vs. The Middle East Judaism Studies

Hezbollah has killed many, many Israelis over the years. When Israel retreated from Lebanon in 2000, the UN and Lebanon had agreed to completely disarm Hezbollah. Instead, Hezbollah has become ever stronger, and has sponsored and committed many attacks.

Hezbollah has fired something like 1000 missiles and rockets at civilians in Israel over the last couple of weeks.

War isn't about economics of death. In war, you do the absolute worst damage possible to your enemy. If it takes thousands of Hezbollah deaths to make sure that not another single Israeli is killed by Hezbollah, then the war will be a success. If it manages to isolate Hezbollah from Syria and Iran, it will be a success. Israel does not have much choice any more.

Israel carefully targets their bombs. Yes, some civilians get killed, but they have taken out a lot of military targets.

Hezbollah aims their missiles and rockets at cities, somewhat randomly targeted. They purposely try to kill as many Israeli civilians as possible. When Israeli military forces were gathered on the Lebanon border, Hezbollah didn't send any rockets toward the tanks and soldiers. No, they sent them at Haifa.

Body count means absolutely nothing in military terms. It isn't a matter of "you killed one of mine, so I am going to kill one of yours." It is a matter of, "until you stop killing ANY of mine, I am going to beat on you. So, STOP!"

Every time Israel has offered a "cease-fire" in its 60 year history, the opposition (whether it is Egypt, Syria, Jordan, Hezbollah, Hamas, or any other entity) has used that time to rearm, to snipe at Israeli civilians, and prepare to wreak more havoc on Israel.

They have stopped the war many, many times. 1948. 1956. 1967. 1973. Myriad attempts to make deals with the Palestinians. Two "Intifadas".

What will change if they stop now, with Hezbollah still in power in Lebanon? Will the attacks on Israeli civilians stop? Will the overt acts of war against Israel stop?

Not a chance.

So, what do you propose to actually make a difference there?



Post Date: 14th Aug, 2006 - 8:43am / Post ID: #

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Will The Fighting Stop?

As the 6am ceasefire takes effect... the real war begins

From this morning, Hizbollah's operations will be directed solely against the invasion force. And the Israelis cannot afford to lose 40 men a day. Unable to shoot down the Israeli F-16 aircraft that have laid waste to much of Lebanon, the Hizbollah have, for years, prayed and longed and waited for the moment when they could attack the Israeli army on the ground.
Ref. https://news.independent.co.uk/world/fisk/article1219037.ece

Post Date: 15th Aug, 2006 - 10:34am / Post ID: #

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East Middle Vs Israel

Israel's verdict: We lost the war

Ehud Olmert, the Israeli Prime Minister, was obliged to admit "shortcomings" in the 34-day-old conflict in Lebanon yesterday as he launched what may prove a protracted fight for his own political survival.

Mr Olmert's admission in a stormy Knesset session came in the face of devastating poll figures showing a majority of the Israeli public believes none or only a very small part of the goals of the war had been achieved.
Ref. https://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle...icle1219280.ece

3rd Sep, 2006 - 11:39am / Post ID: #

Israel Vs. The Middle East

As I have made very clear, I am a strong supporter of Israel, and the Jews in general.

Here is one of the reasons.

https://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1249

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The following are excerpts from an interview with Sheikh Yousef
Al-Qaradhawi, which aired on Qatar TV on August 26, 2006.

*Clip # 1249 - SheikhYousef Al-Qaradhawi: The Jews of Today Bear Responsibility for Their Forefathers' Crime against Jesus

Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi: In this film ["The Passion of the Christ"], there is an important positive aspect. The positive aspect lies in its exposing the Jews' crime of bringing Jesus to the crucifixion. Even though we [Muslims] believe that Jesus was not crucified, a crime was committed, and the people who paved the way for this crime, who helped to commit it, who brought Jesus to the crucifixion, and kept pursuing the issue, until the governor on behalf of the Romans in Jerusalem at that time sentenced him to death...

[...]
More than 30 years ago, the Vatican issued a document, exonerating the Jews of [spilling] the blood of Jesus. Not all Christians accepted this document.  The Pope in the Vatican and the Catholics are the ones who exonerated them.  They exonerated them under political pressure. But the Protestants did not exonerate them, the Orthodox did not exonerate them, and Patriarch Shinoda in Egypt did not exonerate them, and kept saying that they bear the responsibility.

[...]

Do the Jews of yesterday [sic] bear responsibility for the crimes committed by the Jews of the past? The principle is that they indeed bear responsibility for these crimes, as long as they do not renounce them. If they glorify and take pride in what their forefathers did, if they write about it, quote it, record it, and teach it to their children, and if they consider it to be part of their religion and heritage, they bear the responsibility. As we can see, the Koran held the Jews of the Prophet Muhammad's time responsible for what their forefathers did. It addressed them, saying: "We made Moses a promise extending over forty nights, then you took the calf for worship, wrongfully." It says, "you took," but it was their forefathers, not them. But they adopt the deeds of their forefathers, and so they bear responsibility for them - unless they renounce them.

[...]

They adopt the deeds of their forefathers, and they take pride in them. Therefore, I say that the Jews of the 21st century adopt what the Jews of the first century did. They adopt what [their forefathers] did to Jesus, and so they bear responsibility for it, unless they renounce it, saying: This was a crime, and we ask Allah to absolve us of it. But they have not said this, and therefore, the Jews of today bear responsibility for the deeds of the Jews of yesterday.


I don't like injustice. Here we have another Muslim leader, who, we are told, is bound to PROTECT the "people of the Book" (Christians and Jews), telling gross distortions to stir up more hatred and anger against the Jews. This is gross injustice, and just illustrates the lengths that these leaders will go to to try to get people to allow them to murder Jews with impunity.

This attitude justifies Hezbollah and Hamas in their constant attacks against Israel. It justifies Iran and Syria in providing war material to these terrorist groups. It justifies Saudi Arabia in its Wahhabi philosophies of hatred and intolerance.

Until the world addresses these issues and convinces the Arabs and Muslims to change this mindset, there will continue to be major acts of violence and war.

Unfortunately, I don't foresee this ever happening. Too much of the world, including the media, agree with these sentiments.

Reconcile Edited: Nighthawk on 3rd Sep, 2006 - 11:42am



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Post Date: 30th Jan, 2007 - 6:10pm / Post ID: #

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Israel Vs. Middle East - Page 7

ISRAEL MAY HAVE MISUSED CLUSTER BOMBS, SAYS U.S.

Israel may have violated an agreement with Washington by using American-made cluster bombs during last summer's war with Hezbollah guerrillas in Lebanon, the U.S. State Department said Monday.
Ref. https://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/200...un-cluster.html

Post Date: 21st Feb, 2007 - 12:44pm / Post ID: #

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Israel Vs. Middle East Studies Judaism - Page 7

LEBANESE ARMY ANTI-AIRCRAFT GUNS FIRE AT ISRAELI PLANES OVER SOUTH LEBANON, NO HITS

Lebanese anti-aircraft guns fired at Israeli warplanes over southern Lebanon on Wednesday, a military spokesman said, indicating that Lebanon's army is taking a new assertiveness toward Israel.
Ref. https://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/200...non-israel.html


 
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