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Muslims cannot be legally married to another person in the United States and that marriage is not recognized, but like mormon fundamentalist they do continue to practice Polygamy.

Why American Muslims don't care to legalize polygamy.
By Andrea Useem

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I do see some in the Homosexual community that support same sex marriage say that Plural Marriage is a separate topic. I do not think they want to deal with the fact that if Same sex marriage is state sanctioned, then there would be no reason for Plural Marriages to also be governmentally approved. They do not want to have to accept one without accepting the other.

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I am aware of the reasons for Muslims not pursuing the sanction of government, we Discuss that openly in the Studies of Islam Board plus as you said, most religions consider the recognition of 'god' more important than that of government. You will see too that in the early days of the Church this was also the SAME (see Thread I recommended). It is only in the 1900+ do we find the Church taking a change because of pressure, but does it mean government trumps God - no. The idea behind the Church's support for this is to stop Polygamy firstly and Gay Marriage secondly. The Church's PR is tired of the association with the fundamentalist. I think the general thinking of the Membership too is a rejection of Plural Marriage, and a simple matter of 'we do not want this', but is that what God wants?

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I believe the Churches support for the Federal Marriage Amendment may have something to do with Plural Marriage (though not to a great extent), but that does not bother me. I am not ready to live that law at this point, I freely admit that. I do not believe God will judge me for that, as he has not required that from me or the church.

I do not reject the Doctrine of Plural Marriage, but I do not believe it a necessary commandment for members of the Church to currently follow. God does not condemn someone for not following a law that he has not expressly commanded.

I am not sure the Church (rather its members) will ever be completely ready for all that God wants (at least not until the right before or after the Millennium). Ancient Israel as well as the Nephite Nation, lived under the Law of Moses. The Early Christian Church fell into apostacy only after a few centuries if not decades, The early LDS church could not live up to the law of Consecration. God gives us only as much light as we can bear, not necessarily just to punish us (there is a component of that), but more so to protect us, as we are not (as a church) able to abide by the full law.

Luke 12:48

In every age the members could not live up to the Celestial Law that will someday be the expectation for all of us to live. I do not fault the Members for that. I believe that we are given in the Church what we can be expected to live in our Mortal existence. God may not be setting up Zion's society (with Polygamy and the Law of Consecration) at this time, because he loves us too much to give us something we are not ready to live by. I believe though, that there may come a time in the Churches History where he will give us more of the Celestial Laws regardless of our ability to live them.

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Some of your points I expressed in the 'In that day...' Thread, so I agree, my point is that the Church is actively perusing to crush something that used to be part of its active Doctrine - interesting.

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But is that their expressed Goal (crushing Plural Marriage). It seems that this has been primarily about Same Sex Marriage, and plural marriage has not been the central tenant of the Marriage amendment.

How else would the Church come out on the issue of Same Sex Marriage? If the Church comes out on any hot topic issue, this seems like one it should address (Marriage and Family).

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Of course, it has been for decades, same sex marriage is actually only a recent issue.

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It never seemed to be that big of an issue where I live. There have been fundamentalists in Northern Arizona and Southern Utah, and it just doesn't seem like the Church has been that outspoken about it (politically) until very recently. It could be that I really haven't been paying attention.

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No one will notice if they do not make themselves knowledgeable of this as a Doctrine and ordinance established by Joseph Smith. The Church is trying to blot it out of existence (literally), so most Members just go on myths and urban legends.