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I think you would have to have some pretty solid proof before a person would invest. Especially a large company. I am curious as to how you would swing that on legends and scant pieces of evidence.

I know finding lost ocean vessels act this has been done but they had logs and historical documents that are recognized as official and meaningful. What would you offer in an adventure such as this?

As far as this site I have no issue with this conversation as if it is even suspected this is a scam you will get booted. I feel this is a good place for one to present facts and such to prove the truth.

As far as the bank issue goes you mentioned. I think it would be a lost cause now as it was paper might be on micro film, but unlikely it exact location they will even be interested in finding unless you can push them though legal action to open the doors so to speak.

Dead accounts here in Canada once idle for x days are absorbed by the banking institute all they have to do is show reasonable attempt to contact the owner. They actually assume a good portion of money like this. Would you notes not be the same?

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Mcborne,
Treasure hunting is legal here all you need to do is apply at bureau of mines....but out of thousands diggings here, nobody seems to apply..WHY?
1) The requirement is like that of mining, no small time treasure hunter can comply with that kind of expensive and tedious treasure hunting requirement.
2) The treasure share is 75 % (gov't)...25% (funder, land owner, treasure hunter)...NO CRAZY TREASURE HUNTER will agree with that kind of sharing.
3) Our Phil gov't is SO CORRUPT, almost every week there is a billion dollar corruption investigation in the senate/lower house...why would we trust that kind of corrupt gov't, aber?
4) Assuming you had a piece of paper as your treasure permit, and you recover 10 tons of gold....if local officials or police suddenly appear and steal and confiscate your gold/treasure...what will you do? do you think a piece of paper (TH permit) can SHIELD THE BULLETS? hehehe tyhey may let you eat your TH permit...Or will you SUE THEM TO COURT?...Hello, remember you are still poor, while the culprits are already rich by your gold, they can EASILY BRIBE JUSTICE.

The only way you could treasure hunt is DO IT SECRETLY AND COVERTLY....its safer than informing local officials that you are into TH.

Re our old folks previous phil banks accounts...ITS GONE CONFISCATED BY PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS ALREADY. Do you still expect that marcos cronies monies is still intact on phil banks or BSP?...PCGG and previous presidents already STEAL IT AWAY once thay are in power...thats the easiest money they could get, bcoz no complainants.

Re 2003 recovery and ambuscades....It was joint venture with other treasure team. Our team assignment serves as treasure adivers and pinpointed the exact location of buried treasure. When the treasure was recovered, they planned to remelt the gold bars at benguet mines to make it appear as mined gold. When they tried to go to airport (BSP)...on the way they were ambushed....one of my teammates died, 4 other people from other TH group died....IT WAS NEWS HEADLINE THAT TIME. (miners...este THrs was ambushed going to airport to deliver to BSP)

In treasure hunting....it had ENDLESS PROBLEMS....you will only realize when it occurs. Since almost all treasure hunting activities are small time diggings or recovery with almost zero budget...other concern like security and stuff are not part of it due to lack of budget.
ex: All treasure hunter do not have vehicles, if you recover treasure, most likely you will hike and walk carrying gold bars at your backpack or commute at bus, therefore you are prone to local police or local gov't officials checkpoints....and confiscation.

Re suspected 120+ sites....we have not monitored all of them...I assume some of them have recovered already by japanese (JICA), americans (USaid) and other foriegn mining companies....but thre are still lots of them scattered and untouched. Even the japanese gov't admits that it will take them a century even in todays technology to recover tham all.

Mr. Debate,
FYI....treasure hunting is NOT for everybody....it is RESERVE ONLY FOR THE BIG ADVENTUROUS BOYS...not for faint hearted like you. Treasure hunting is about adventure of a lifetime and only a few people like us loves these endeavor.
If this is NOT your liking, then go to your 9-5 job, or go to endeavor you feel safe, nobody is preventing you anyway.

kracken,
If you talk about solid proof...of course, we do hundreds of docus and stuff thru these years.
ex: how about a picture of your old folks standing on several treasure stockpile 7 feet high during martial law days?...isn't a solid proof of yam treasure existence?

Re dead accounts ...it is easily stolen by people in power here in Phils. As simple as that. Our old folk had 9 billion pesos in one of Phil bank...but its gone pffffppp...as simple as that. Thats why we concentrtate more on treasure sites at least some of it is still there.

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GB: Reading into your reply reinforced that you certainly know what your group is doing. You have my respect over your quest. I take exception though on your comment that "the only way to treasure hunt is secretly and covertly" because this won't be fruitful and beneficial for the Filipinos in general. This will just sow so much more corruption, fuel more selfishness, more dangerous and therefore detrimental. As I said, hunting illegally will not be really worth all the risks and threats, especially for poorly funded treasure hunters.

A legal arrangement for treasure hunting of 75%-25%, in favor of the government, is indeed insane! Assuming this is really so, the best solution in settling this saga is to make Yamashita treasure recovery a full-time government-mandated project, complete with all public funding, congressional oversight and media coverage. All treasure hunters must lobby for it in Congress or to push for a people's initiative for government to sanction all official diggings nationwide (except for mining companies) in order to arrest the endless injustice and robbery perpetuated by the very few people in power who corrupt and amass themselves unscrupulously.

I think this issue is a very good platform for the upcoming presidential election in 2010. I will vote for the candidate who will disclose everything about the Yamashita treasures and who will push for the proper and righteous recovery of all gold treasures. I chanced upon an article few days ago about the Taiwanese government sanctioning an official excavation and recovery of possible gold loot hidden in one of their mountain by the Japanese forces during WW2. The government reportedly will allocate public funds for the recovery and was candid in admitting that the only way to determine the truth about it is to authorize such excavation. I think it should be the same here in the Philippines.

On a different front, the Treasure Hunters Association can organize and seek a party-list representation in the next national elections. I think this is very patriotic initiative and should easily many votes for seats in Congress. This party can help solve the issue on lack of funding given that the government resources can be allocated and legally pursue the treasure hunting expeditions in the country. What do you think? Perhaps because of this thread many sensible people will start to unite and move to organize for this party-list representation. Count me in on this!

Also, I have long suspected that there is a cabal inside BSP that is behind all the underground gold trading activities and systematic robbery of dormant treasury accounts and gold deposits. This too must be exposed!

Thank you GBOY, truly I am glad to share and discuss my views on this thread to someone truly sensible!

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GBOY: I checked with the Bureau of Mines and you were right about the 75%-25% sharing, it's 75% in favor of the gov't. But this is true only if the site is located on a government-owned/public land. However, in case of private lands, government gets a 30% share as excise tax and the 70% to be shared between the treasure hunter (permit holder) and landowner.

Immediately upon any recovery, all valuable finds and articles have to be inspected by the National Museum to assess if these have any cultural or historical value. Otherwise, the recovered treasures are "turned-over" directly to the Oversight Committee, which is composed of the DENR Secretary, Technical Director of the Bureau of Mines, National Museum Director, Central Bank Representative and the Permit Holder. Unfortunately, I am not privy anymore as to the procedures in how the recovered treasures are actually accounted for from the site, transported to the Bureau of Mines and disposed of by the Oversight Committee. Interestingly, this committee does not involve any representative from local government or the military. So this issue on security from treasure site until the disposition/settlement is still sketchy and I think must be addressed in more details by the government to protect the legal hunters from robbery, theft, murder and from any circumvention of events by a bandit or corrupt agency/personnel to grab the recovered treasures.

You have expressed that hunting legally will be useless because local officials and police could easily threaten and confiscate the treasure finds, but perhaps this can be so for ILLEGAL operators who can be intimidated by arms especially because they have no permit. However, I still have no basis to assume that all the other LEGAL operators of treasure hunting will be 100% exposed to such kind of treasure grab given that we are already past 20 years in a post-martial law era. Further, I really have yet to witness a genuine treasure hunter who applied for a legal permit and later on testified or reported to media that he was robbed and/or if he was killed, was reported so by the relatives or hunting partners, duly collaborated with the police or Bureau of Mines. It will be interesting if someone can testify that he tried to hunt for treasure legally but because of the problems, he now advocates that people must hunt without the permit, to conduct the diggings, tunneling and recovery "secretly and covertly." And perhaps, it would be advisable that the Treasure Hunting Association of the Philippines, of which I am aware is a legal organization, must come out with its position paper to support such "secret and covert" hunting operations and proclaim that the provisions of our existing laws are really inadequate to safeguard and secure the welfare of the treasure hunters operating LEGALLY.

Having expressed previously that it is just not worth it to hunt treasures illegally because of all the threats and risk, I also do not think that hunting legally will be any less adventurous either. Thus, I am now more discouraged to agree that treasure hunting must be done "secretly and covertly."

Further, after I verified from the Bureau of Mines, the application fee for a Treasure Hunting permit is P10,000 pesos only, renewable annually and subject to all the legal, technical, financial and operational evaluation. This fee is not expensive but yes, the process is very tedious but doable and maybe the requirements are necessary since it is just the proper thing to do. Many people are easily attracted to the "get-rich-quick" schemes, and so many are deliberately trapped into treasure hunting illegally. Perhaps, many succumb to illegal hunting because of ignorance of the laws. And just when the treasure grabbing incidents occur, the law unfortunately could protect them from recovering what was grabbed.

Perhaps, a less complicated situation to operate "secretly and covertly", though not any less dangerous, is when the operations are done in private properties. But still, just how many private lands with the buried Yamashita treasures, we don't know.

What I am really trying to say is that since treasure hunting is LEGAL in the country, illegal treasure hunting must be discouraged. Which is also good so we prevent all the scammers and swindlers from proliferating. It is likewise erroneous to argue that just because many government agencies are so corrupt, the only solution is to hunt illegally, that is "secretly and covertly" because man, it will just perpetuate all the corruption and selfishness and is no better than being another form of stealing! Yamashita treasures that are recovered from public lands belong to the State and rightfully belongs to the Filipino people!

LET'S SIMPLY WORK TO ADVOCATE TREASURE HUNTING THE LEGAL WAY AND PUSH FOR MEASURES FOR THE PROTECTION OF THE WELFARE OF THE LEGAL HUNTERS AND PROSECUTE ALL THE CABAL OF ROBBERS OF EVEN IN HIGH PLACES!

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There is a legal way to treasure hunt? Is this post based on the books The Yamato Dynasty: the Secret History of Japan's Imperial Family and Gold Warriors: America's Secret Recovery of Yamashita's Gold?

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Socialist: YES, it was legal before and is still legal now here in the PHILIPPINES. Unfortunately, most of the gold haul occurred during the martial law era of Marcos in the 70's during which he mobilized a military task force to recover all treasures including confiscation of gold bars from all legal treasure hunters! I think that stigma has perpetuated the preference of the later adventurous hunters to just hunt "secretly and covertly." These so-called treasure hunters have actually been around since the 70's thru the 80's and I am surprised even until now, allegedly because there are really still many sites of the Yamashita treasures that are not yet discovered.

I am not the author of this post but I don't think the discussions are verbatim and taken from the books you mentioned. In fact, I haven't read those books although I browsed some of its content and the reviews through web search.

As a Filipino, I myself is even bewildered by the explosive revelations and all the conspiratorial angles of the book, I am giving it a 2-thumbs up, even without having read it fully yet! Even though I don't know the author, I am giving it the benefit of a doubt because the details mentioned in the book did not contradict some of the information that appeared in the all-original documents that I have examined and that are in my possession.

As you can surmise in my previously posted discussions, I have a relative who was a legit treasure hunter (a lawyer by profession) who claimed to have successfully recovered some gold bars in mid-70's but were sequestered by the military. Some details in the many written documents and correspondences (made during the 70's) became more telling and meaningful only after I have read the different stories surrounding the Marcos Billions and Yamashita treasures. I already said I cannot prove this 100% but I should be able to do so only when I have already claimed the gold deposits from our central bank, in behalf of my relative. But then again, when that time comes, there would be no point whatsoever anymore in having to return in this forum and announce that I have proven that gold bars of Yamashita treasures do exist, is there?

You should check with the appropriate government agency in your country, I am pretty sure your country also has laws and rules governing treasure hunting. For some countries, this may be banned especially in some African countries where blood diamonds have been condemned.

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This Topic is very suspicious especially the communications between Gboy and Mcborne (both now deleted). It seemed to me that Mcborne was enticing Gboy to 'sell' more info here. They could be one, the same or in the same league, regardless, unless someone has substantial factual information to add to this Topic I consider it just a frivolous way to promote Yamashita Treasure Hunting through certain parties.

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Well I guess asking to see that picture of the treasure is pointless. It is suspect to me as well but was hoping one or both of them could have provided better proof of their claims.