|QUOTE (JB@Trinidad @ 1-Apr 06, 2:47 PM)|
|I think it becomes disturbing when from your house corner to the street corner almost each man both walking and driving has to say something|
|Let's not exaggerate, now!|
|...but her son misbehaved, was rude, and even slapped me on the butt at the dinner table...|
|I still believe that sexual harassment in the workplace is a far more important 'bone to chew', right now.|
|QUOTE (JB@Trinidad @ 1-Apr 06, 3:45 PM)|
|:spock: On one hand you accuse me of exaggerating and at the same time you give this story?|
|Maybe if we respected women in the workplace, it might translate to respect in the homes, and on the streets?|
|It is virtually impossible to legislate against the man on the street, because - who would enforce it?|
Trinichic, you keep separating society from individual households, but, in fact they are one in the same. Just because you were raised one way doesn't mean that your actions are not based off society. Your parents were influenced by their surroundings, and chose to raise you the way they did. Here is a definition of society:
a group of interacting people who share a geographical region, a sense of common identity, and a common culture
So, to say that society is separate is just putting blinders on
|His bad behaviour isn't because of the way 'society' is, or I'd expect that sort of behaviour from my brothers, cousins, nephews...|
While in Mayaro with my fiance' and her brother and his girlfriend, we got out of the car, and walked in a single file line to a mini-grocery. There was a maxi parked in front of the store and this older, dirty man probably in his 50's leaned out of the maxi and started yelling at my fiance' that she was "built like a machine" and he said something to the effect of her being "fine as a needle on a thread". I'm not sure I heard him exactly, or what his exact meaning was... but I know a sexual harrasment when I hear one.
You ask who would enforce such laws aimed at curbing this? I can tell you this. Had we been where I am from... I would have pulled this man out the window of that maxi and taught him some manners. Unfortunately, I had already been warned by her brother that you are not permitted to stand up for your rights or those of your spouse or sister for fear of being gang-beaten, shot, and left for dead while the female you are defending is also beaten or raped. He told me that the only option was to simply ignore the problem and walk away.
This problem is most definitely caused by the society which teaches men that this behavior is normal and therefore acceptable and that if you don't approve of it, you must keep your mouth shut and ignore it. I have to say, it turned my stomache to walk past that man and not say a thing to him. It went against every principle instilled in me by MY society and culture which teaches young men that you either treat a woman with respect or you will be TAUGHT some respect by the men around you.
|Unfortunately, I had already been warned by her brother that you are not permitted to stand up for your rights...|
Shane, sorry to hear you have experienced a little bit of what women experience here on a daily basis even though most of them do not accept and some of them even think is "cute". I do not know your fiance's brother, but with all due respect, his answer to you is the typical "trini" answer for most things. "Don't speak up" "Let it go" "That's nothing" and so. Extremely laid back people who will not speak up for their rights at all, so do not think they would speak for you or defend you at all, that's reality. I do not know if it is because I am foreigner but I can't stand that, many times I have bite my tongue when walking down the road and seeing a group of men telling me things but in more than one ocassion I gave them a piece of my mind because I was just too tired for the non-sense.
The difference between men in Trinidad and in other countries is that men here look and say things to EVERY SINGLE WOMAN they see: fat, thin, young, pregnant...yes pregnant, old, even grandmothers and women with babies on hand! (it happened to me recently) and I have seen men telling things on the street to a big pregnant woman. It is just plain disgusting...so when women here say that it is not sexual harassment and the typical stupid answer you get is: "Nah, that's how men are here" I do not know who makes me more sick.
Men in general and some women too, think most of the time with their pants rather than with the little brain that it is left of them.