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Post Date: 29th May, 2005 - 10:22am / Post ID: #

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Abuse of Afghan women rife post-Taliban - Amnesty

Women are raped, murdered and abused with impunity all over Afghanistan despite the overthrow of the Taliban that was supposed to have ushered in a new era of rights for women, Amnesty International said on Monday.

The London-based rights group said entrenched feudal customs still meant Afghan men often treated women as chattels who could be abused at will without any fear of official retribution.

"Throughout the country, few women are exempt from violence or safe from the threat of it," Amnesty said in a report based on extensive interviews in Afghanistan.

"Husbands, brothers and fathers remain the main perpetrators of violence in the home but the social control and the power that they exercise is reinforced by both state authorities and informal justice systems," it added.
Ref. https://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L29667384.htm

Post Date: 30th May, 2005 - 12:09am / Post ID: #

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I remember after 9/11 there was this mad rush of reporters to Peshawar on the border with Afghanistan...the cream of the crop of reporters were camped out in the local 4 star hotel and used to aggressively cover demos of a few hundred people burning the US flag... the Media is in the end limited to what it's reporters actually see...the reality outside Kabul I am sure has not changed much for the average Afghan

Post Date: 1st Jun, 2005 - 10:08am / Post ID: #


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I saw an interesting interview with the Dr Sima Samar, former Deputy PM and current head of the Human Rights Commission in Afghanistan.

Dateline interview with Dr Sima Samar

In this interview she describes incidents of quite disgusting torture by US troops. But interestingly, while this is occurring with very little done by US military chiefs in response, Dr Samar believes that US and international forces still have a significant role to play in securing Afghanistan.

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GEORGE NEGUS: Your independent commission into human rights in Afghan has received many, many complaints, more than 120 we hear. Are they complaints against Americans, against American military officers and soldiers, complaints of abuse taking place in villages and taking place in detention centres?

DR SIMA SAMAR: Yes, you are right. All the complaints, it's more than 120 complaints, against American soldiers, on their behaviour within the villages and also in the detention centres. There are some sensitive culturally sensitive issues that they are dealing with different villages in Afghanistan, so that's not acceptable. So the people do come and complain to us.

GEORGE NEGUS: What sort of abuse are we talking about here, doctor? What are the Americans doing to Afghans that they have detained?

DR SIMA SAMAR: I think, unfortunately, there were torture in the detention centres. As you heard, that six Afghan has been killed in their detention centres because of the torture or because of the bad behaviour of the American soldiers within the detention centres.
They ask the Afghan people to be naked and then they take the photograph. This is very, very sensitive in our culture.

GEORGE NEGUS: So it's torture in the prisons, what about in the villages, what's happening there?

DR SIMA SAMAR: Well, they do go to the people's house and without any warning ahead and the male soldier do assault the female Afghan people and also too, they do search the clothes of Afghan women.


Dr Samar went on to say that there is very little security in large parts of the country, but certain aspects had improved.


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Post Date: 22nd Jun, 2005 - 8:31pm / Post ID: #

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U.S. fighting in Afghanistan kills about 76 rebels

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) - American aircraft bombarded a rebel hideout with missiles and bombs, killing up to 76 insurgents in one of the deadliest battles since the Taliban's ouster more than three years ago, officials said Wednesday.

A dozen Afghan policemen and soldiers also died in fighting Tuesday that left bodies scattered across a southern mountainside and was sure to add to growing anxiety that an Iraq-style conflict is developing here. Five U.S. soldiers were wounded.
Ref. https://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2005-06...-fighting_x.htm

Post Date: 23rd Jun, 2005 - 1:04am / Post ID: #

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Pakistan is becoming increasingly Taliban controlled. The American media has completely ignored this. Pakistan has nuclear arms and 120 million population.

After our paid for Army dictator dies or is replaced, our influence in that region will be severely lessoned.

Afghanistan now has had consecutive years of bumper cocain and heroin production.

It seems that the American occupation of parts of Afghanistan has increased drug production significantly.

These same drugs that are flooding the WEST are paying WARLORD salaries and creating incomes other agriculture cannot compete with.

Afghanistan is also another lost cause, and the USA for all its talk has not supplied the resources to win this fight. Perhaps because Afghanistan has no oil.

Post Date: 23rd Jun, 2005 - 9:19am / Post ID: #


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I would say Pakistan is the terrorist hotbed of that whole region, not Iraq. There are more terrorists in Pakistan than probably any other country in the Middle East at the moment. President Musharef has his hands tied, he knows if he tries to clamp down on it then they will turn on his government and oust him.

Pakistan inherited millions of refugees when the Russians invaded Afghanistan. It also inherited extremists and has become a safe haven for terrorist activity. By Musharef's reckoning, the west knew this was the case and ignored it, now it is an impossible battle.

It is very conveniently ignored by the US because Pakistan is currently a US ally. Just like Saddam once was. But it is not the US's fault this has occured. However the "war" on terrorism is clearly heading in the wrong direction by ignoring this threat.

The US is allied to a number of warlords in Afghanistan so why would they want to do anything about them. Who cares that they brutalise innocent civillians much in the same fashion as the Taliban once did. The coalition military saw this happen as the Taliban were being ousted and didn't care.

The problem with cropping poppy is that the farmers make so much money out of it they can't afford to grow anything else. If they try they go broke, and government handouts aren't near enough to compensate. I'm sure the Afghan government will be getting their cut in some way. You would hope so because the warlords certainly are and Afghanistan desperately needs resources to rebuild.


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Post Date: 23rd Jun, 2005 - 11:46am / Post ID: #

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Users EuroYank and Arvhic, you will notice that this thread is about 'The Changing Face of Afghanistan'. If you wish to discuss Pakistan then please go to the appropriate thread.

Post Date: 24th Jun, 2005 - 12:14am / Post ID: #


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Is something being implied here or is this just the Russians having a say in something they most assuredly regret losing years ago?

Russia concerned over terrorist training camps in Afghanistan

"We are seriously concerned that terrorist training bases are still operating on Afghan territory, including with the immediate participation of certain secret services," Putin said
Ref. https://en.rian.ru/russia/20050623/40751063.html


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