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4th Apr, 2006 - 8:55pm / Post ID: #

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The quote is only semi-accurate. I am sure that many LDS are thrilled with the idea of "Lamanites" moving into the area. However, I don't think they are seeing anywhere NEAR the conversions that they are seeing in Central and South America. And the damage they are doing to the culture and government in Utah is horrible.

The "doctrine" part of the quote is very misleading.


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18th Apr, 2006 - 4:36am / Post ID: #

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May Day strike plans throughout the US and now even Mexico is joining the fray. This could be potentially huge, even just for one day. The problem is, it won't be just illegal immigrants who strike, but others who just want to take a day off or who are intent on stirring things up - no matter what their cause truly is (see last two paragraphs of the second quote as an example).

This is the full text of an article here: https://www.theconservativevoice.com/

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Mexico Joins May Day US Boycott
April 15, 2006 09:25 AM EST

By Sher Zieve - The continuing attempts of illegal immigrants" organizers to influence and coerce US immigration policy and lawmakers continued on Friday. In what is being called 'the great American boycott", leftist activists have called upon Mexican citizens to cease buying any products from US companies located in Mexico on the traditional Communist 1 May "workers" day".

In the US, the boycott and strike is being called yet another "Day Without Immigrants". CNN reports that emails sent to recipients in Mexico read: "Remember, nothing gringo on May 1!" and "on May 1, people shouldn't buy anything from the interminable list of American businesses in Mexico".

As a show of support, the Mexican government's National Coordinator for the National Board of State Offices on Attention for Migrants Lolita Parkinson said: "We are not going to be buying any products from the United States on May 1."

Acknowledging that Mexico plans to influence if not make US immigration policy, Vice President of the Chamber of Commerce in Piedras Negras Carlos Chavez y Pacho added: "We want to show the power we have as Mexicans!"

A growing group of US citizens, Citizens on Strike, has called for counter-actions to the illegals' boycotts and strikes: citizensonstrike.us.



And another article here:https://www.detnews.com/
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Immigrants split on May Day boycott
Some worry it will shift attention from fight to halt House bill, question anti-war group's role.
Darryl Fears and N.C. Aizenman / Washington Post

Immigrant day off
What: A Day Without Immigrants
When: May 1
Why: A massive job and economic boycott that organizers hope will paralyze ...the U.S. economy.
Where: Cities across the country

The coalition of grass-roots organizations that staged huge rallies on behalf of illegal immigrants in recent weeks is torn over an ambitious next step, a massive job and economic boycott that some are calling "A Day Without Immigrants."

Across the country, some groups have expressed enthusiasm for a May 1 action that they hope would paralyze restaurants, hotels, meat-packing plants and construction sites. But others have questioned the strategic value of such a move so soon after the wave of demonstrations, particularly as it would require many illegal immigrants to risk their jobs by skipping yet another workday.

Skeptics have another pressing concern -- that a prominent anti-war group may be playing a leading role in the boycott, linking its cause with the immigrant rights campaign to promote its own agenda.

... In Chicago, "everyone in the Spanish media is talking about a May Day," said Artemio Arreola, a member of the Mexican Federation, a driving force behind a march last month that included about 300,000 people.

In Dallas, where between 350,000 and 500,000 people turned out for a demonstration last week, Jesse Diaz, president of the local League of United Latin American Citizens, predicted that the boycott idea "is going to take off like wildfire. There's so much emotion in the air. You're going to see something like you've never seen in the United States."

But that optimism is not shared in Washington, where 100,000 to 300,000 people filled the Mall on Monday. Many organizers of that demonstration expressed serious doubts about the boycott.

"This is something we need to take very seriously, and consider all the repercussions of not doing it right or of creating a backlash," said Jaime Contreras, president of the National Capital Immigrant Coalition and chairman of the local Service Employees International Union.

"It's premature to do the boycott May 1, given that the Senate doesn't get back in session until the week of April 23," added Contreras, who said he will recommend that his group reject the plan. "We want to see what comes out of the Senate and what compromises (with the House) emerge before we do that."

...Diaz, Contreras and other leaders were alarmed that the anti-war organization Act Now to Stop War and End Racism co-sponsored a news conference in Washington, D.C., to announce the boycott. The group has been criticized by conservatives as being affiliated with the Socialist Workers Party and supporting the Palestinian uprising against Israel.

"Groups ... that have done nothing on immigration have no reason to stick their nose where it doesn't belong," Contreras said. "They have no business saying, 'Let's do a strike' when it will create a humongous burden on immigrant groups. They need to stay in their box."


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18th Apr, 2006 - 8:15pm / Post ID: #

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Thanks for those articles, FarSeer. I think a key statement was this

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particularly as it would require many illegal immigrants to risk their jobs by skipping yet another workday.


Employers need to make it crystal clear that jobs will be on the line if they decide to participate in this strike. I also agree that many organizations are using this issue to promote their own agendas. It will be interesting to see what develops of this come May 1.


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23rd Apr, 2006 - 4:16am / Post ID: #

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Well it seems there is still hope for common sense to prevail

Hispanic leaders split over boycott tactics
Mexican government calls meeting with Latinos, expected to urge U.S. leaders to reconsider May 1

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Latino organizers of a May 1 economic boycott in the U.S. remain confident participation will be high, but factionalism has developed over planned tactics and, now, the government of Mexico is interjecting itself in what some see as an attempt to derail the protest altogether

While some Hispanic-owned businesses say they will close in support of their workers, they acknowledge it will be costly to do so.


https://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article....RTICLE_ID=49864

I seriously hope this type of thinking will prevail and people will realize a boycott of this nature can only make things worse, not better.


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Post Date: 21st Jun, 2006 - 12:53am / Post ID: #

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I am still very torn over this issue, but a recent article in my local cities paper really enlightened me to understanding immigrants, especially hispanic ones. For some reason, I always thought that all immigrants were using up all the government benefits. It turns out that they only take up around 5.6 percent of those benefits, and then only as a last resort according to recent Harvard and Princeton studies.

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Immigrants Add Benefits and Burdens

Aid is a last resort for many, who more than anything else want jobs and security for family.
By Scott Canon
The Kansas City Star

They come to this country for work, not handouts.

They're likely to be poor: Among immigrants here less than four years, 56 percent are in or near poverty.  (That number drops steadily the longer they stay.)

But, researchers at Harcard and Princeton universities have found, they seem more intent on getting jobs than relying on government aid.  And they turn to welfare programs at far lower rates than U.S. citizens in similar straits.

Consider Maria and Jose.  When they brought their son and daughter to Kansas City, they sweated through a summer without air conditioning in a tiny apartment.  Roaches everywhere.  Boxes for tables.  Everyone sleeping on the floor.

Because everyone was in the country illegally, the family was ineligible for programs that might help with groceries or the rent.  For them, the church provided, first finding castoff beds and then opening up its pantry of donated food. 

In time, Maria and Jose found steadier work.  They moved to Olathe, where they keep an old pickup and a small sedan running and their teenage daughter, Veronica, fixed with a cell phone.

Yet many immigrant families do add a burden to the network of social services when they start families here.

Precise numbers are difficult because state agencies that distribute aid don't collect information on citizenship status of parents who enroll their American-citizen children in Medicaid, the food stamp program or the WIC program (supplemental nutrition vouchers for women, infants and children).

Such mixed families - where Junior is a citizen eligible for government benefits but Mom is here illegally and ineligible - are common.  The Pew Hispanic Center estimates two in three children living in families headed by illegal immigrants are American citizens, about 3.1 million children nationwide.

So Mom applies for food stamps on Junior's behalf.  The Center for immigration Sutdies estimates households headed by illegal immigrants consume 5.6 percent of the coutnries food assistance. 

Thats's because their U.S. born children are entiteld to the help, advocates for the poor say - even if the parents are often reluctant to apply.

Some believe that accepting benefits will require their children eventually to enlist in the military or that the money will have to be repaid. 

"They hear the wrong thing," said Sonia Medellin, a bilingual case manager for the Mattie Rhodes Center in Kansas City.  "They also have problems with language or the forms."

Cash payments from Temporary Assistance for Needy Families are possible only for those in the country legally and then only after a five-year wait. 

And even families with citizen children can't use public housing programs if the head of the household is in the country illegally.

"Most just go and find things on their own," said Medellin.  "They find out through word of mouth that they can get help for their children, and they get benefits as a last resorts."


28th Jul, 2006 - 2:20pm / Post ID: #

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A very interesting little bit of information, along with a lot of discussion about the illegal immigration problems in the US.

https://www.townhall.com/Columnists/Jonatha...l&comments=true

This is a column about a new show apparently coming onto US television. I won't be watching it, but I find the discussion interesting. It is a "documentary" reality show about an immigration activist (Minuteman) who is put into a home with illegal aliens in East Los Angeles for 30 days.

This is a letter from the man who participated in this little "experiment".
https://www.vdare.com/misc/060718_jorge.htm

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Recently, I finished working with the Fox Network's "Thirty Days" producers on an episode in which I lived with illegal aliens for thirty days.

Before I signed my contract, I read it thoroughly and noticed that it actually said that they could defame me and say, or release embarrassing information about me.

I took this to mean that they neither have to be truthful or ethical in the treatment of the person under contract....me.


My experience living for Thirty Days in East Los Angeles, California did indeed cause a tremendous change in my perceptions of what I should be doing. I decided that I need to work on the politicians personally to persuade them to enforce immigration laws, or enact new ones that will make the four cities near where I live uninhabitable to illegal aliens.

This change was caused by living in a former USA city that is now a Mexican city -to the point where, as I wandered the streets, I asked the illegals if this city reminded them of a Mexican city and they said yes: Guadalajara, Mexico.

Another shocker was a video clip showing me walking down the street saying: "Why not be part of the process of bringing them here legally?"

What you don't get to hear was my qualification: "If this family of seven goes back to Mexico and applies for legal entry into the USA, I promise to sponsor them...why not be part of the process of bringing them here legally?"

I actually made that offer to them. But if they accepted, they would have had to leave. They refused my offer, since it meant that they would have had to get to the back of the legal immigration line and probably wait years before they could come here.


There is much more, in both pieces. I truly admire Frank Jorge (George) for putting himself into such a situation. I found the story inspirational.

Reconcile Edited: Nighthawk on 28th Jul, 2006 - 9:23pm


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29th Jul, 2006 - 2:20am / Post ID: #

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Oh, this is rich. The town that this guy lived in with his illegal alien family? It's the same town my parents lived in for many years, Maywood, California. I've spoken here in this thread and others about how you are greeted in Spanish at the drive through restaurants, the bank has all its signs in Spanish, and even the coupon mailings from major food manufacturers are in Spanish. We used to have sales people and various church missionaries come to the door, and when they found out we were white and didn't speak Spanish, they would leave - they had a definite agenda to reach Hispanics who spoke no English.

And this person lived with a family there for 30 days, where people say it reminds them more of Guadalajara, Mexico.

They aren't kidding.

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According to US Census data [from  State of the Cities Data Systems (SOCDS), search for Maywood, CA]:

In 1970, a majority of the Maywood population was White, with some Blacks and Asians

In 1970, the total foreign-born population was only 14.4%

In 1980, the Hispanic population in Maywood was more than 80%. By 1980, nearly half (49.3 percent) were foreign-born

In 1980, there were slightly more than 3,700 White people living in Maywood

in 2000, there were about 700 whites in Maywood

In 2000, Maywood was 97% Hispanic. More than 55% of its residents are foreign-born.


Reconcile Edited: FarSeer on 29th Jul, 2006 - 2:21am


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29th Jul, 2006 - 9:53pm / Post ID: #

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In 2000, Maywood was 97% Hispanic.


Wow, is this a joke? Obviously the majority of this people are illegal..and I'll keep asking this question. The US immigration seem to believe they have a good system of stopping foreigners coming to the US illegally but what about those who are already living in the US illegally? Why nobody is doing anything about it? This is serious.


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