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Depends a little on what level of lifestyle he maintains during the course of the year; his stipend as a Defender alone grants him enough to maintain a modest lifestyle then add his hunting but at the same time taking into account that his obligations as a Defender of Clear Creek takes away from being able to dedicate himself fully to hunting/trapping so it kind of levels out I think since they would both pay about the same all things considered.

Being under the employ of Tywin is sort of like being a reserve deputy (Although a pretty well paid one when you think about it because I maintain my POST certification by being a reserve Deputy and I don't get paid at all for that); when he gets called out for the Defenders that's time taken away from his hunting/trapping. In the end there are only so many hours in a week though and it would be too time consuming to split everything up between being a Defender, hunter, and the occasional escort. Even more complicated if a character decides that they are putting in 90 hours a week, then you have to try and figure out fatigue and all that.

If he maintained a poor lifestyle (Which would be the average for Clear Creek) that only takes 2sp a day or about 6gp a month while he is pulling in about 30gp a month so he would make a profit of 24gp a month multiplied by twelve so 288gp in profit for the year. If he maintained a modest lifestyle though he would pretty much break even.

I also think that he could expect at least a 10% discount from merchants in Clear Creek so studded leather would probably only cost him about 40gp rather than the 45 listed in the PHB. So in the end I guess I would say that he could get the studded leather and still have 240gp left. I will grant though that everyone in the party would be able to have a small cottage built in Clear Creek if they wanted and this would not necessarily rise to the level of maintaining a modest lifestyle.



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Sorry for being a no-show today. I got into work, early mind you, this afternoon, hoping for a quiet day so I could read the newspaper, do some posting, etc. But as I walked in we got called out to a homicide. From 2:30 until 11:00 PM, I was mostly outdoors I the cold. I am back at the office, have entered evidence and loaded my photos. And it is 1:45 AM. Time to go home. I hope tomorrow to have free time. But the family can keep me busy. At a minimum I will post in the Inter-Character thread tomorrow evening, hopefully sooner. Night all!

Post Date: 11th Feb, 2017 - 7:42am / Post ID: #

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So Zinna could have a small cottage built and make the same income mentioned for Carrick? I know I would need to cut a quarter of it out due to training etc. So in summary she would effectively then have 216 gold. Does that sound right?
Just when Zinna thought she was over her time with the Iliosani and this happens. Poor Malek. Truly a fate worse than death.

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11th Feb, 2017 - 3:28pm / Post ID: #
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The Scout of the Deep Wilds says...

Hmm, do not take this the wrong way, and at this point it's basically semantics, but it would seem that being a "Defender of Clear Creek" is a bit more intricate and demanding than one might have originally thought. Don't get me wrong, I understand the whole "Reeve pays us to answer his call without question", however by the way your describing how time consuming it would appear having this title would be to not even have enough time to maintain our older pursuits (In this instance Carrick's hunting, which is how I was going to explain his leveling up) in my opinion calls into question what exactly are the DoCC doing? How many large threats outside the normal purview of the town guard is the village facing during this year?
I would like to think that Twyin would continue to use the resources at his disposal appropriately, such as the town guard (And perhaps Corren, as he was a captain in said guard already) handles the day to day oversight of law and order within the town and outlying farms while the Defenders, a group of citizens who have proved themselves to be a "Cut above the rest", band together whenever a major threat befalls the little town.
Remember, the Reeve's initial call for people to help locate missing villagers and uncover what was behind it was after the town's guards were unable to figure it out. The Defenders of Clear Creek should be a call made once the more practical avenues have become exhausted. They shouldn't be dealing with every "Missing persons" report or every potential crime that falls under the jurisdiction of the guards.
Its like calling the Avengers to help stop a bank robber even though the local police department is fully capable of handling the situation; it's telling the police that they aren't "Good enough" while wasting the Avengers time that could be used for less trivial matters.
It could be seen as overkill, not to mention the likely unintended consequences of the townspeople just becoming complacent assuming as long as the DoCC are around, they will be safe from any harm and losing respect or at least not seeing the town guard as necessary which could result in the other unintended consequence of the guard becoming lazy and/or even disgruntled at the fact that the DoCC are called in to do their jobs more and more, but receive no where near the accolades.

Again, these are just some of my personal thoughts on this subject that may or may not be of any real impact to the story. As I stated earlier, this could all just be semantics, but I will say, as far as Carrick is concerned, he would not be so eager to leave his hunting days behind just to become a glorified guard. He would still rise to the occasion for larger dangers that actually threaten Clear Creek and its residents as a whole, but scoff at any request of doing things he believes would be the responsibility of those hired and skilled to do such.

*edit*
Actually, now that I read what I just wrote, I think this could be very good story wise and lead to great role-play! It could add a bit of conflict into the mix without being overly disruptive.

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Post Date: 11th Feb, 2017 - 3:52pm / Post ID: #

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That was my understanding as well. I'd think the Defenders would be expected to help where they can, but their interference is primarily needed for… special problems. A few of which might happen over the year, but it shouldn't be often enough to demand too much of their attention.

I have to ask if Leo is able to get anything. A proper income is unlikely. But as mentioned before, he'd be looking for chances to loot/barter/do tasks for the materials he needs to improve his gear. Can't defend the innocent if he falls in battle after all.

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The Scout of the Deep Wilds says...

Took the average HP: 6 + 3 (CON) + 1 (Racial attribute) = 10.
Carrick now has 33 HP.

Also I took Hail of Thorns as my new spell.



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"Defender of Clear Creek" is a bit more intricate and demanding than one might have originally thought.

You have a point; maybe the stipend should be adjusted because again 1gp a day is pretty good wage and wouldn't be something that would be paid for only occasional work. At 1gp a day the character would be making quite a bit more than the average person in Clear Creek, but if they are utilized in this role maybe once or twice a year I would say they are being way over paid. For example, if one of the Defenders was a noble or a Lord, would they be willing to pay someone 1gp a day (30gp a month) retainer fee to use them maybe once a year?

I didn't envision them being used as 'glorified guards' but rather they would be used to handle more of the external threats like goblin raiding parties that may get too close to the village or responding to concerns raised by surrounding farms because Tywin is the Reeve (Or Sheriff) not the captain of the watch or anything so they aren't being sent to break up bar fights. Clear Creek doesn't have much in terms of an official guard presence really, the 'watch' was limited to Corren and a couple of others who did it full time and the rest were basically part-time volunteers or militia or when needed outside of the village Tywin could call them up as something of a posse. But Tywin doesn't really need to call up a posse of irregulars when he has the Defenders who can respond much more appropriately to threats.

It could be adjusted though so that rather than a daily wage the Defenders get paid a hiring fee of sorts when they are called to service; again trying to use the Pathfinder Ultimate Campaign Guide it would be like hiring a team of elite soldiers so 660gp (Which is how much the straight purchase price for elite soldiers would be) which the party could split among themselves as they see fit. As it stands now Tywin is paying out 90gp a month to maintain Zinna, Mradoric, and Carrick and another 45gp a month for Corren for a total of 135gp a month to retain the services of The Defenders of Clear Creek; and if they are only being utilized a couple of times a year maybe that's not worth it because he's paying out 1,620gp a year!

In the end I think hiring them when needed as opposed to a straight salary makes more sense and this way the characters can go about their business as usual without being constantly called away from their normal duties by the Reeve.

As far as Leo goes, aside from the absence it sounds like he spent much of his time as something of a caravan guard and could probably maintain a modest lifestyle in this way; the Church is giving him a small stipend so that he can maintain a minimal lifestyle and he could count the stipend as profit. What kind of equipment upgrades are you looking at?



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Immediate item of interest is armor. Looking at splint. He can craft it himself, but he'd need to obtain good quality steel and hide, total value of 100 gp.



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